When is digital going to get the soul of music?


I have to ask this(actually, I thought I mentioned this in another thread.). It's been at least 25 years of digital. The equivalent in vinyl is 1975. I am currently listening to a pre-1975 album. It conveys the soul of music. Although digital may be more detailed, and even gives more detail than analog does(in a way), when will it convey the soul of music. This has escaped digital, as far as I can tell.
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please forgive my last post. It was posted in the wrong forum. Should have been under my system thread in All out assault !
Digital has pretty much closed the gap with Analog, for all intents and purposes. I would argue that you can only tell the differences in direct side by side comparisons. Quite frankly, only the reviewers have time for that.

I had a chance to hear a Reel to Reel tape recording of Harry Belafonte, Live at Carnegie Hall at RMAF. They were demonstrating it in the Playback Designs Room and comparing it with their MPD-3 CD Player/DAC. The tape still sounded better, but not by a whole lot. The tape seemed to have better dynamics and jump factor. One could argue that they are different, but not necessarily better.
Digital has SOUL as long as the mastering was done right and you have a well made and designed player. Early digital was like the 78 record, and like analog, it improved over time, as more was understood about this new technology.

The one advantage vinyl has if your a boomer is the records when 1st pressed came from master tape (1st 100,000) that was fresh, digital had to work with the same tapes if found that could be 30-50 years old. So if you had the 1st pressing and it was mastered well then you will have good Sonics and perhaps better than a cd mastered well of the same album because of the years of damage done to the tape, and even if they could find the master tape anymore, most used back-up tapes.

Digital had to work with these old tapes, had to remaster them, and in some case remix them. The knock on digital is not fair and this constant attack on CD medium is for one reason only, too try to keep a hobby that is dying going and get younger people involved.

Having owned both Vinyl and Digital I can say I enjoyed both as much as long as they are mastered right, a lot of vinyl sounded just poor, just like CD's.

I have learned using digital that noise is #1 issue, vinyl issues are many, and one of course is the coloration of platter, arm and cart chosen, none of this is bad because in the end you choose the "sound" of your liking. Nevertheless, a turntable is not going through electronics to reproduce music like a cd player, preamp, or amp do.

Stereophile and others reviewed CD and players and said superb sound, outstanding detail and imaging etc. So now, they say it sounds like crap and the masses follow and of course something new to market and sell.

Recorded music is dying, sales are down no matter the format, and for good reason the boomers are older, younger folks buy tracks not whole album anymore. Vinyl sales account for .05% of the market so folks this is the last hurrah for all formats, so collect while you can.

CD did one thing good for us all and that was making available LP’s that would never have seen the light of day again. So much music was released due to the popular new format that studios saw they could resell the same old LP again in a new format, sounds like the down load push to me, though much less will be released.

I know many of my CD’s will not see the light of day, and I really don’t want to lose the feel and touch of my music collection.

Moreover, let us be honest do you need great systems for Rap, Hip-Hop, Corporate Pop, and Rock County music that been processed to death.

Not to mention the newest trend in recording mastering, make very thing the same loudness and in your face. The new Paul McCartney CD's are just awful, makes the DCC Gold CD's sound like works of art and they are from the early 90's.

You don’t have the great studios anymore, the great producers, and people all playing together in one room with out all the massive over mixing that is done today, they is where the Soul went. Folks laying their tracks down then going home, and let the producers make the recording. It has no Soul.

Folks garbage in and garbage out, do not blame the messenger or the format. Both can sound very good, but neither sounds like the master tape (which none of us have ever heard) nor live music.

This endless debate is useless. Enjoy what you have, and stop being lead by the marketing mags like TAS and Stereophile and others. I find them full of hot air to be polite. They really have an agenda for the manufactures that pay them with ads, and most of all huge discounts on audio gear, and extended loaners for god know how long.

Brings to my mind the radio payola scandals of the 50’s and 60’s and the day of record reps dropping off tons of product free so the store would push them. Think of all magazines as advertisements for product, just like a travel magazine.

Enjoy the music of your choice.
EVS/ Ric Schultz does a blu- ray modification to the OPPO 95 that's downright addictive and frankly unbelievable until heard. So musical and sweet, extended yet articulate. The digital sound has come a long way, a really long way. I have a beautiful analog set up about 5K and Ric's modified Oppo 95 challenges my TT in many ways and it's definitely got soul and then some. It's magical to my ears. I do of course have the ancillary equipment perfectly matched, amp 25 watt class A pentode into 97 db speakers with dual 12" servo drivers per side and hand built cross over's on top. All for under 10K less cables and ac conditioning. I'll put it up against 50K system anyday and bet I get a least half buying and saving.
the speakers are a kit but awesome, I put it together professionally, the amp is hand built in the US like the speakers all point to point wiring with a nice kicker LIFE TIME Guaranteed on the AMP parts and labor less tubes after 90 days. Speakers are not small but not huge and the subwoofers are state of the art an included in the 5K. I have two other speakers Sonus Auditors w/ rel sub and Revel speakers with Revel sub and my above mentioned systems is decimating the latter two speaker that both cost 8K plus respectively just for the speakers. That mark up is lost value the way I see it and it's taken forever for me to learn this shit. The cables are important regardless of what anyone says. The designers of these components also make cables but I'd try all of them as they are completely affordable and claims are made that they match cost no object but I'm not sure about that. I use very high end cables in all my systems and now I'm hearing some amazing sound. My kids are rocking out most of the time, so I know its really good.