The Truth About Preamps


I'm wondering now that we're in the digital age with so many cd players having variable outs, what does a high quality preamp do for a system? I've heard so many different stories on either you get more detail straight in or that you get more bloom with a preamp. I would think that if you had a musical cd player such as a Cary running straight into a musical and smooth amp such as a Classe or Conrad-johnson you wouldn't need a preamp...all this given you have only cd as your source...I'm just wondering what you guys think and your experience running a cd player straight into an amp. I'm thinking of running a Theta Miles straight into a Classe CA-300
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i found this 17 year old thread which poses a very interesting question that is still quite pertinent today imho

the replies are not necessarily enlightening but the question posed is a good one many years later....

FACT!!! most sources today that have variable volume output have output stages that equal and sometimes better most preamps, especially tube ones.

If you need to insert a preamp to "color/distort" the sound you your needs, then that means you don’t like the sound of your source. Better saving money and change the source to one you do like.

Think about what Nelson Pass is saying in this quote about active preamps:

“We’ve got lots of gain in our electronics. More gain than some of us need or want. At least 10 db more.

Think of it this way: If you are running your volume control down around 9 o’clock, you are actually throwing away signal level so that a subsequent gain stage can make it back up.

Routinely DIYers opt to make themselves a “passive preamp” - just an input selector and a volume control.

What could be better? Hardly any noise or distortion added by these simple passive parts. No feedback, no worrying about what type of capacitors – just musical perfection.

And yet there are guys out there who don’t care for the result. “It sucks the life out of the music”, is a commonly heard refrain (really - I’m being serious here!). Maybe they are reacting psychologically to the need to turn the volume control up compared to an active preamp.”


Cheers George
FACT!!! most sources today that have variable volume output have output stages that equal and sometimes better most preamps, especially tube ones.
George, what analog source doesn't absolutely need a preamplifier gain stage?

I have been in this game for a long time, as a listener, distributor and dealer. Not all passive/active "preamp" devices are equal but I have never heard a passive unit that sounded anywhere near as good as a decent active preamp, at all price points over $1K. The key is matching the preamp to your upstream and downstream components. For me, preamps are the heart of my systems. AMps come and go but great preamps stay (almost) forever.

George, what analog source doesn’t absolutely need a preamplifier gain stage?
Many of my Lightspeed customers some have even post here if you search.
On how good their TT sounds with a high gain (>68dB) phono stage direct into a passive attenuator with no active preamp, "that’s what kind of analog source." Should try it one day and see what if not I but what Nelson Pass is trying to say to you in the quote of his.

Cheers George