Frustrated with Vinly

The overload margin of the phono stage is a critical aspect of the noise issue.  The noise sources have a very fast rise time, and even though the RIAA curve turns them down, the feedback loop of the phono stage can get quite upset.  Also, a cartridge with a rather high tip mass can crash around when it hits a boulder in the groove making more noise than it should.  Finally, the Decca guys used to point out that a cartridge with a 3gm tracking weight and a low tip mass will be a lot kinder to the grooves than a high-compliance unit with a high tip mass.
The overload margin was one of the features of the original Naim amplifiers and went a long way in making them more satisfactory than their competitors.

Background hiss and crackles (not to mention limited dynamic range and the endless aggravations of cleaning) were never acceptable to me that’s why I stopped buying vinyl in 1983 and have never remotely considered going back.

Then the next generation jump into the game, i start buying vinyl in 1995, sold all my CDs quickly in the mid 90’s, and can’t stop buying vinyl ever since.

I can’t hear anything like background hiss and crackles that louder than music, so i don’t care. And i don’t clean records with special devices. My first serious turntable was Technics SL1210 mk2 and now i have many top quality vintage direct drives like Denon DP-80, Victor TT-101 (two of them), Luxman PD-444 (two of them)... my old Technics still here and still working without service.

Vintage vinyl is my passion, original pressings

Digital is so boring compared to vinyl.

Vinyl forever!

I want to remind people that even on live shows we’re not alone in front of the band, people make some noise around us, this is life. At home even with digital setup we can hear some sounds coming from the open window, from the neighbors etc ... this is life.

It is not necessary to be in the submarine, in the bunker on in the space to enjoy the music.

Silent background is not what we have in the real life

@chakster 

Hi,

I know you have recommend the Technics 1200GR. I have no doubt it is a good and exceptional TT. But my only gripe with it is the looks. I mean it does look nice but too DJ for me.

As I said earlier somewhere, for me, looks are important too. When I am not listening to records, I want to look at my player and say, wow, that is a beauty.

Now, I know you're probably thinking, I am going to pass on a great player simply because it might not be as pretty as some other players and that probably doesn't make sense. I get it.

But what can I say, that is me. If I get a new table, it needs to perform well but also look good to my eyes.

Thanks for the suggestion, I am still kind of looking at it and it is still somewhere in my mind, so you never know.

Thanks

@jay73,. Sometimes, when cost is a issue, looks are IMO far down the list of considerations. BTW, one of my MyMat customers (who is a repeat customer) has that Technics tt. He's now enjoying two MyMats as a sandwich, with a KAB poly mat in the middle. I told him to throw away the stock rubber mat.

First of all i hope you understand that Technics is a NEW turntable and completely different internally from the old technics model discontinued long time ago.

The "GR" (available in balck and silver) is not a DJ turntable, but a slightly simplified version of the $4000 "G" and "GAE".

Maybe you have to see it in the real life, not on the picture, touch it and compare to the plastic belt drive toys from Rega.

Have you seen a Technics in real life in the shops ?
Here is a better images of GAE, the finishing is simply amazing, and none of the DJ turntables for Technics have such luxury finishing. The GR is very close for half price.

My advice is to stay away from the belt drive turntables, it’s inferior technology and what they are offering even at $2k is a rip-off (imo).

Turntable for DJs in the new Technics line is much cheaper "mk7", but not the GR, G, GAE.

The motor of G and GAE is simply the best direct drive servo available today in this world. Matsushita is huge, they made millions of Technics tunrtables and this is the only reason why their price is not 10 times higher like from small manufacturers.

Compared to $1700 they charge for brand new GR all those plastic Rega and related belt drive must be $300 max.

So belt drive for $300-500 might be ok, but belt drive for $2000 is rip-off.

If the look is more important for you then any vintage turntable is much better to look at in my opinion. 

This is my ex vintage Technics SP-10mkII that i bought for $1200 injcluding shipping in mint condition without plinth and tonearm. And this is what i bought next (Luxman PD-444) for less than $2k.