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So many great golden era DD tables out there, what do you recommend for $1000?

Pretty much as the title says.
Have been looking for a while for a decent DD table to add to my lot.
Have bought a few lower end ones and ultimately been dissapointed.
Now I know there were/ are literally hundreds of choices from the Japanese Golden era of DD tables.
Looking for suggestions from actual owners of solid DD tables up to about $1000 .
I have read and read but nothing substitutes for real experience.
This would likely not be my primary table, my Garrard 401 has that position for now.

Thank you.
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lewm
12,560 posts
 
It's one curious case where the tonearm alone (from a P3) costs much more than the same tonearm, if you purchase it along with a turntable, like the PL70LII.  In my opinion, the PL70LII with that tonearm is a screaming bargain at $1600 (price on Yahoo as quoted by Jessica above).  I've seen the tonearm alone advertised for as much as $6000.
cliffaudio
4 posts
 
If you want the best sound, I recommend a Well Tempered Classic.  I had one for many years before getting a Well Tempered Reference.  The difference in sound between the two is minor.  The Classic completely destroyed the VPI HW-19 Junior in sound quality that I compared it to at the time.  You can find the Classic on the used market for about a grand.
puntobasta
16 posts
 
the fully automatic denon dlp-47l is a masterpeice of engineering and a joy to behold. I have one, along with a pioneer pl-518, restored, that has auto-return. both of the dd tables are built like tanks and have never had any issues. good luck. ps- have used both mm and mc cart on both. pps- my denon may become available soon as I try out the new technics pl-1500c. 
edgewear
543 posts
 
@lewm, 
I agree with you that the PL-70L II is a great bargain in vintage DD territory. I purchased one for around $1000 at HiFiDo several years back, but it's hardly ever on sale and prices have gone up since.  For some reason the Exclusive P3 is offered more frequenly, but at a much higher price of course. That table is in a different league, as well it should be.

The tonearms on both tables are very similar, but not identical. Both are 12" length and have interchangeable straight and S-type arm pipes. They were also available as separate items. The P3 arm is called EA-10 and is dynamically balanced. The PL-70L II arm is called EA-70 II and is statically balanced and is then fitted with a manual armlift (the version in the PL-70L II has a motorised lift and automatic shut off). Topclass audio in Hongkong has both arms on offer at the moment for $3800 and $2000 respectively. For a moment I even considered buying the latter and mounting it on my Micro RX-1500, it's that good.

@uberwaltz, 
You might also consider the PL-50 L II, which is one step down from the 70 and equipped with a 10" version of the otherwise identical arm. That should also be a great choice and most likely still within your budget.



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