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Elrog 300B vs Takatsuki 300B tubes

Has anyone heard the Elrog 300B tubes ? I read an article which mentioned that the Elrog 300B delivers 15% less power than a traditional 300B tubes. Can anyone confirm that it is audible ?

I am choosing between Elrog and Takatsuki 300B tubes. I would prefer the Elrog because it is cheaper and supposedly wonderful but if it really sounds less powerful then I have to rethink.
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calloway
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I have new Elrog 300Bs in my SET monoblocks with about 500 hrs on them without problem..great tubes..
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charles1dad
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It’s good to hear that the current production Elrogs may have gotten the QC issues properly identified and addressed. As posted early in this thread I had the initial run of the Elrogs 300b and suffered three tube failure episodes.I am  glad others are currently experiencing no failures thus far.
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ianderson
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Adamaly, that’s great news to hear, thanks to you and callaway for the encouraging feedback. As good as the EMLs I’m using now are, having another level of improvement beyond that is a wonderful thing. 
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labpro
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Quick update on the break-in, sound and reliability of the ELROG 300B's.

During the 80 hour break-in period, it was a bit of a roller coaster.

Sounded good right from the start, but the high end extension (grain) and base slam definitely improved with time.

As compared to Takatsuki, Psvane WE 1:1 and Gold Lion's, I find that the ELROG's present a "heavier yet delicate" overall presentation. About 30% more weight across the spectrum.

Like the other tubes mentioned, great sound staging and "air" around instruments and performers.

This tube really shines on vocals, string instruments and piano. When the hammer hits a string on the piano for example, you really know it.

After break-in, I made some "upstream" changes to my preamp and DAC tubes to see the effect. The ELROGS are quite unforgiving when they don't like what's coming from other components.

Complimentary upstream inputs need to be carefully selected. 

Another way to say this, is "garbage in-garbage out." ELROG will let you know the good, bad and ugly system attributes. 

So far I have enjoyed my time with these 300B's. They sound great in my system, and the reliability has not been an issue.

Hope this helps other listeners.

luisma31
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I just completed reading this thread, thank you all for your contribution not only on the Elrog's but other tubes.Anyone care to comment on the latest 300B chifi tubes available? Psvane, Shuguang and such? they have the Psvane Cossor, Shuguang has the 300B-Z but one labeled 50 years treasures.I'm just curious to hear the opinions.Apparently Elrog is running smooth.Any opinions on good 45's aside of the EML?
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