Best multi channel amp and processor good for 2 channel listening.


Hi All,

I am new to this forum and have a few questions in reference to HT processors.  I am starting from scratch and switching from a Krell S-1000 and S-1500.  I sold the processor a few months back and I going to list here the amp.

I am currently considering the new Bryston 9B3 and the SP4 and decision was based on upgrade ability and warranty. The speakers for HT will be Sonus Faber Grand Piano Home and for 2 channel Verity Otello’s.  My second choice was Classe but I was informed that they have all sales on hold, this is concerning.  I have not listened to either, my choice is based on reviews and the Bryston dealer.  My decision was also based they are both good for two channel, I am not set on this but it will help the budget and space.  I am looking for a warm and good over all sound; some might say 3 dimensional sound, clarity is also a factor.  Actually, all I’ve read in reference to Classe fits the bill.  I would like a couple of other choices to include in my short list and opinions are welcome. The budget for the processor and amp is approx. 22k.  

Thanks to all.....
maguiar
Eziggy,

I saw you mentioned on a previous post you did hear the Gryphon and found it a bit harsh on some recordings. Did you listen to the Martin Logan’s and Gryphon or some other speakers? Years ago I listened to the Martin Logan’s and they are definitely warm and holographic speakers.  I figure it would pair well with the Gryphon since your speakers can benefit a bit more in dynamics.
@maguiar102

The Lumin T2 is highly regarded by many and received good reviews but I personally haven’t heard it yet. But I have heard the PS Audio DirectStream DAC and I highly recommend it to you. You will be able to find a used one for $5k and less probably around $4kish. Its original MSRP is around $7kish or perhaps $7500. The PS Audio DirectStream DAC was also very highly praised and regarded and received outstanding reviews especially for the money It’s probably one of the best sounding DAC for under $10k.

I suspect the PS Audio DirectStream DAC would be superior to the Lumin T2.

If you decide to keep using your Arcam CD player for spinning CD, I suggest you can use your Arcam as a CD transport and connect connect your Arcam using coax digital cable to the PS Audio DirectStream DAC or the Lumin T2, whichever you will end up with.
Does your Arcam CD player have a coax digital audio output? 
Caphill,

Yes it does...   

Keep in mind I am not technical in anyway, so how will I benefit by doing this connection?
@maguiar102 

Did you already buy the Lumin T2? Cause I just realized that the Lumin T2 is actually a digital streamer that has internal DAC and it does not have coax digital or optical digital audio inputs. It only has Ethernet & USB inputs. So if you end up with the Lumin T2 then you won't be able to connect your Arcam CD player using coax digital cable to the T2. 

However, the PS Audio DirectStream DAC does have coax digital input so if you end up with the PS Audio DirectStream DAC you would be able to use your Arcam as a cd transport and connect the Arcam to the PS Audio DirectStream DAC using coax digital cable.

I highly recommend the PS Audio DSD DAC as it would most likely sound better than the DAC in the T2 Lumin. Or you can purchase the Lumin T2 and use it as a digital streamer and connect the T2 to the PS Audio DSD DAC using digital cable cause I just saw the back of the Lumin T2 and it does have a digital audio out to pair the T2 with an external better DAC such as that of the PS Audio DSD DAC. 

To answer your question regarding the benefit of using a coax digital cable out of your Arcam CD player is to utilize a better external DAC such as that of the PS Audio DSD DAC. So you will be using your Arcam as a CD transport only and sending digital signal to the PS Audio DSD DAC so the PS Audio DSD DAC does the digital-to-analog conversion process. 
But this is only possible if you end up buying the PS Audio DSD DAC since the Lumin T2 does not have a digital coax input. If you're using analog out of your Arcam CD player to connect to your integrated amp or preamp it means that you're using the Arcam's internal DAC thus the Arcam does the digital-to-analog conversion process. 

Hope this helps. 
Maguiar,

I did demo the Gryphon Diablo 300 with the 11As.  Thought it was great, though certain songs came across a bit bright, and at times slightly harsh.  Generally it had a great balance of warmth and clarity, but was surprised at the brightness that snuck in every now and then.  It was enough where I could see potential fatigue setting in.  I think it was paired to a higher end DCS DAC, didn't check to see which model.  If I was to consider the Diablo again, I would want to try to do a more thorough demo.

I got a great deal on the Luxman 509X so figured I might as well give it a chance given it was pretty much half the cost the Diablo.  So far I like it, but working on trying balance the system a bit more since it is a very transparent amp.  Just picked up a new interconnect to try out.  The 509X is the first amp I have owned which let me really hear the obvious differences between my copper vs. silver interconnects.

On the PS Audio DAC Caphill mentioned, one cool factoid is that their DACs are firmware upgradeable.  You get a new and improved DAC with each free software update.  It's on my list of DACS to demo with my system down the road, though I am really fascinated with LampizatOr DACs out of Poland.