Follow Up On TV Querry For 2007 Purchase......


Hello Again All:

Remember a few months ago, I was inquiring about what would be the best TV to buy if I was buying a Plasma TV??? I was eyeing a Visio 42" Model at the time, and the consensous was that I should pony up and consider buying a Panasonic or a Toshiba (which I do not disagree with that assessment 100%).

Well People....... I'm still stuck (kind of).

Yesterday, after leaving my part-time job at a local shopping center in Prince Georges County, Maryland, I went to the new Circuit City that happens to be across the street from the mall I work at. I met a gentleman who seems to be QUITE knowledgeable about HDTV's in general, and he pretty much gave my ass a crash course on the difference between Plasma and LCD TV's. I am beginning to start saving up for the TV at the end of this month. Until yesterday, I was set to go with a Plasma as Plasmas as a whole seem to provide better blacks than an LCD model could ever dream of. But after looking at a Toshiba 42HL167 (a 1080p LCD set, mind you) hooked up to a Toshiba HD-A20 HD-DVD Player yesterday, I was stunned at the black level this set was producing, as well as the fast refresh rate this set was doing when it was doing a sports scene. This set was producing a picture that was close to any Plasma set that inside the store. If I didn't know any better myself, if I hadn't known that it was an LCD set yesterday, I would've said that had to be a Plasma set. The picture was so crisp, so sharp and so vivid, my jaw just dropped inside the store. After seeing that set, I also asked the saleman to show me the 720p variant (the Toshiba 42HL67) of the same set (so I can see if I can see enough of a difference to warrant paying an extra $400.00 for the 1080p version of this set (the 42HL167)), and quite frankly, I couldn't see that much of a difference off the bat. After looking at these sets yesterday, I still kind of want to go Plasma because of the quality of blacks they tend to produce. But after looking at these Toshiba LCD's yesterday, I'm starting to have second thoughts and starting to second guess myself.

I guess, the question I'm am getting at is are LCD as a class are really THAT good today (as far as picture quality, black level and fast refresh rates are concerned)??? Because these were the VERY things that LCD's took a lot a flack and criticism for in the past. Are the differences between LCD and Plasma really THAT narrow??? Because after looking at these two Toshibas yesterday, I am almost sold on the pictures these sets produce, and that's not to say that they're attractively priced to boot.

Any feedback on experiences between LCD and Plasma, as well as any opinions are appreciated in advance.

Thank you for your time.

--Charles--
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PLASMA SHMASMA!!!I happen to own the exact LCD you are considering.Sourced by a Denon DVD 2930ci this tv ABSOLUTLY ROCKS!I would never own a plasma.Why?Screen door affect.I have a small home theater & sit fairly close to my screen.With the black level control on the dvd/p properly set the blacks are just fine.Better than that the color saturation is almost 3 dimensional!LCD ALL THE WAY!!!
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sorry freediver dude u r missin out lol
ill take your best lcd against the new 8th generation 1080p elite pioneer plasma
you wanna talk about a screen door effect? have u even compared a plasma next to an lcd....
lol why dont u go back to playing your atari and come back to the new technology when you aren't so ignorant to the facts
if you are going to get one in december wait for the panasonic 42pz700u to come down from the 2200 dollars it is now and it is an awesome tv i just set one up at work today and it is BRILLIANT much better and sharper than the lg 42pc5u it is next to even with a 720p signal coming in (its a 1080p) it is still sharper and much better contrast along with an antiglare screen
Why would anyone listen to an Htnovice?
When making a purchase in December my choise was the 58in Panasonic Plasma but if LCD looks as good as Charles found I would have maybe leaned towards LCD.
Update to everyone here at the thread:

I hope everyone here had a good 4th of July w/o any unfortunate incidents.

But anyway, my shortlist of TV's is as follows for right now.

Plasmas:

1st Choice: Panasonic TH-42PZ700U (1080p w/Anti-Glare Coating On Screen) -- $2,500.00 (but will be less than $2,000.00 by X-Mas Time)

2nd Choice: Panasonic TH-42PX77U (1080p w/Anti-Glare Coating on Screen) -- $1,600.00 (but with fewer features than the "700U")

3rd Choice: One of the Pioneer Models (when I finally get to see one of them. When it comes time to buy, I may put the Pioneer model up against the Panasonic I may choose for a final face off before opening up the wallet and pulling out the plastic (which will probably be the championship))

4th Choice: Samsung HP-T4254

And for LCD's, the choices are:

(01). Toshiba 42HL67 -- (720p)
(02). Toshiba 42HL167 -- (1080p)

That's all for now.

Thanks for the feedback so far. Keep it coming in.

--Charles--