Persona 3f vs B&W 802D2s


I am in the market for new pair of floor standers, I am starting with the speakers and then will decide on how to drive them.  I listen to everything from classic rock, country, easy listening, classical, musicals, opera, and jazz.  The majority would be in the classic rock category.

My listening room is 14'x18' with 9' ceilings, carpet and untreated.  I also have a 24'x24'x20' family room that this system may get re-purposed if the wife lets me put floor standers in there (it is a Florida home with built in cabinets so I currently have KEF R300, R center with LS50 rear and it is not enough for the room).

My speaker budget is around $10k and really like the Persona 3f (and my wife likes the look) for $10k or a demo pair of B&W 802D2s for $9k.  Was just wondering how the community would compare these two speakers.  Unfortunately I cannot listen to them side by side.
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Hey Contuzzi right on, that is why we say add a good sub which helps round out the sound and give some additional augmentation.

One of the other main differences between the 5F and the 3F is the larger cabinet size interacts in the room to produce a bigger overall sonic picture.

The 3F are indeed a bargin especailly considering the remakable driver technology. 

Setup correctly absoulutely amazing we would take the Person 3F over many much more expensive loudspeakers and when used with a sub you would have to spend a boat load more money to find something better even twice the price. 

The new Naim stuff is awesome we have the little Atom and it sound crazy good, the Nova replaces the Super Uniti which was pretty special in its day, the new Nova is supposed to come much closer to Naim's $13k Nac 272/250DR setup for $7k.

https://hometheaterreview.com/naim-uniti-atom-all-in-one-wireless-music-player-reviewed/?page=2
The Personas were one of the best speakers at RMAF this fall . Stat like in room presence of instruments and singers . Perfect frequency response is how I would describe them . All of this in a tiny hotel room . Can’t imagine how great they must be in a good sized treated room . On my short list of speakers to buy , along with Triangle Signature Alpha speakers .
I'll second that....the Personas did sound great at RMAF.  The bass in particular was just outstanding.  They did have room correction employed thought so that is something to consider.
Oh yeah , The bass . Crazy tight bass in a tiny room . Most other "big speakers" in other rooms sounded boomy . Just amazing bass .
B&W have a few design principals and it makes their sound a specific taste. The first and for most important being they are a very mid range forward design and the intent being to create an immediate and palpable vocal performance.

They use their FST mid driver to cover the entire range and push the crossover at much higher point to the tweeter to ensure it covers the entire range. What is being described as beaming here is simply not and you would have to speak to the engineers on what is going on there. In the current edition, the acceptable point in which beaming becomes significant issue would be around 2.6khz (note the speaker seems to regain its dispersion in this area where normally it should continue to fall off and the falloff of the driver should begin in small degrees at 1.8khz).

This may be an effect of the FST in the mid driver or something done in the crossover that produces that forward sound and has the upper mid suck out. What it certainly means is the speaker setup will likely require more toe in to gain balance and that the sweet spot may not be very wide for that suck out range. I had seen an in room measurement if a properly set up pair and it was very flat across the entire audio band. I think setup would be key in getting proper balance from a B&W.

I can understand why they may use a B&W at Abbey Road. Studio monitors are often not entirely balanced and focus on the mids to give the engineer a clear picture on whats going on. A mid forward speaker as such might allow easier detailing of the midrange in the mix than a more forgiving design. You'll have to listen to it yourself to determine if this sound is for you.  I personally don't enjoy as it doesn't serve all recordings reasonably well. For some though, its right where its at for them.