Lifters ForGetting Cables Off The Floor, Worth It Or Snake Oil


  •  I'm looking at some porcelain cable lifters to get some power and speaker cable up off the floor.  Does raising the cables off the floor really make a difference? It's going to be about 200 bucks for 10 of them. Thanks.  
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Room treatments? You mean like Sonex? Yeah, right. There is no silver bullet. As with anything the sound get worse with room treatments. There's no free lunch. 🍔 🍟 🍺

When I realize the original subject was getting the cables off the floor, I realize how far this has drifted off the subject, but since I posted about that, I thought I'd also post again about the Seismic platform and pods.
I just discovered - like yesterday - that, if the springs are not exactly vertical (and when you put the Seismic Platform down, if you do what I did, and simply assume that putting 'em down, even with the bottom part of the springs at the 11 - 5 o'clock position, as you would see the hands on a clock, is sufficient. I discovered yesterday, while listening to Yma Sumac's voice, that making sure the springs are directly vertical (12 noon to 6 o'clock position) is the only way to fly. I had noticed an "ethereal" quality to the sound that hadn't been the case previously. I couldn't figure it out, until I looked at the springs and wondered what would happen if they were MORE vertical (not completely vertical, as this was only a theory). So I pushed the bottom part of the spring so that it was more in line with the top part. Voila! The sound solidified and the cowbell in the recording sounded more like it had 4 days ago (when I "un-verticalled" (yup, not a word. I know. But you get the idea)) it. Geoffkait, do you have to have your spring vertical for the best sonics? You sure do with the Townshend, although it will sound great - even fantastic- with them at the angle. But the "air" will disappear a bit as the bottom part of the springs moves out of vertical alignment (completely my error, of course), and so the field of depth is like an accordion when you push the sides together. Just sayin'.
For those of you that might be considering buying and auditioning a set of those ceramic/porcelain/glass insulators but don’t want to pay audiophool prices: do a Search on ebay and you’ll find thousands of these insulators at varying prices.

I recently purchased a set of 4 vintage ceramic insulators for $40.00 shipped. Most of the insulators available on ebay have a rounded top but others have a "saddleback" top which is perfect for holding a variety of speaker cable types and sizes.

The obvious upside is if you can hear an improvement in your system then you’ve saved yourself a lot of money. The downside is if you can’t hear any improvement then these "non-audiophile" brand insulators will be harder to re-sell.

So you can pay the big-bucks for genuine Cable Elevators and if they’re not yer cup ’o tea you can re-sell them for close to what you paid. OR buy essentially the same vintage insulators on ebay and save yourself a bunch of money. I would seriously recommend the latter. Spend the money you saved on something else!
Elevators never worked for me......not positive or negative.  If you can return them give them a whirl