How to upgrade in pieces - or - tell me about your journey!


Hello

I am getting started on my journey into Hifi here and I would be willing to spend about 10k over the course of a couple of years to get my system from where it is today to something a step or two above. I intend for my system to always be a stereo system at heart and also for it to stay all digital (no intention of tape, tuner or vinyl - or eveb a CD player).

My current systems is a Sonos playing Tidal or lossless FLAC files from a NAS drive. The audio outputs of the Sonos get connected to a Jolida JD-202A which is a 40W class AB tube integrated. The speakers are Energy floorstanders.

I am happy for how the system sounds with a limited number of things - such as vocal heavy folk or classic rock (pre-70s) recorded in mono. It sounds integrated across the drivers with no one element of the speaker standing out. The soundstage is narrow, but the imaging is not bad.

Unfortunately, a vast majority of the music I listen to includes
  • A lot of baroque music. So the orchestra sizes are relatively small, but the vocals and melody lines are very nimble and need to be easy to follow for the counterpoint to show.
  • modern electronic music - not dance floor fillers - but more experimental stuff ranging from IDM (Autechre, Chris Clark, Squarepusher) to ambient (Brian Eno, Max Richter)
  • A good bit of classic jazz from the Miles Davis, Coltrane, Ornette Coleman and Herbie Hancock school.
  • Lots of modern pop & rock - including bands like Wilco, Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds, Sufjan Stevens, The National, Nine Inch Nails and Radiohead who include pretty much whatever the hell they want in their music.
My goals are to get a cohesive & well-integrated sound with lots of growl in the lower frequencies and a lots of treble with no "heat" or sizzle to give that sense of extreme clarity. Imaging & dynamics are more important than a massive soundstage, though I would like off axis sound to not be completely unlistenable so that me & a couple of friends can all sit or stand by the couch and enjoy the music. I am much more interested in clear, fast and articulate bass and to have that which exists have power rather than the speaker trying to reproduce things they are going to do a terrible job at. I am happy to supplement my speakers with a JL or REL sub in the future.

So based on wanting to hear the clarity I hear in my headphones (HD650 with a headphone amp) with a similar amount of articulate bass, I want to upgrade my main stereo system in pieces. I want to go about it in the following fashion, knowing that there will be times in the middle of the process where the system will be less than ideal.

  • First, purchase a DAC (looking at the Ayre Codex) & start feeding the Sonos output through that into the amplifier.
  • Second, upgrade the speakers. I am looking to eventually end up with fairly high power solid state, so I am considering the Revel F206 or F208 speakers. I know they will fail to deliver much with my amp and be on the quiet side, but I hope that once I swap out the amp, they will start to sing.
  • Third, find a power amp that can do at least 200W into 8 ohms. Perhaps the Bryston 4BSST2, Plinius, Parasound A21 or Benchmark power amp. Or maybe even a Mcintosh 402. Connect the DAC-pre directly into it via XLR to drive the speakers.
  • Fourth, replace the sonos with a Aurelic Aeries Mini and use the USB out of that device into the Ayre Codex as I hear that it makes a much better sound.
  • Lastly, consider putting a pre-amplifier into the path if necessary and I need expansion options (or if the sound quality of the dac suffers badly due to chopped off bits at low volumes)

So my final system would likely look like

Aurelic Aeries (Mini) -> Ayre Codex DAC -> (Ayre Pre-amp) -> Bryston/Parasound/Plinius/Benchmark/Mcintosh amp -> Revel Performa 3 F208.

I expect this whole process to last me about a couple of years.

Does this sound like a journey worth embarking upon? Anything there that sounds to like it would be a really dumb idea?
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@ccolby Thank you so much for your response. I am definitely of the former sort. Music is what makes me happy, not the gear. So I am much more interested in the best gear I can afford with the intention of keeping them for many many years to come.

What is the real benefit of active monitors? Why would you recommend them over the conventional passive speakers? I am more than happy to wait, and to learn more about them. I have, to date, only known active speakers to be of the tinny, nasty sort that one connects to their computer. I had no idea there were audiophile quality active speakers out there. I looked up the Kii Three based on your response - but are there other active speakers and brands out there that I should look into?

I have been in touch with folks at Audio Vision & Music Lovers here in San Francisco. I have tried out the Paradigm 75F, the KEF LS 50 and the Revel with one or the other.
I also am of the former sort, despite having gone through a fair amount of gear.

There are quite a few articles about the technical benefits of active speakers. For example:

Pros (recording studios, etc.) almost always use active speakers, while audiophiles almost always choose passive. This means most active speakers are made for pros and hence (1) tend to have an ugly utilitarian appearance, and (2) are not in your neighborhood hi-fi store. If you’re open to that, you have many choices. Check out some of the threads on gearslutz.

ATC and ADAM have active speakers targeted at the home listener -- essentially versions of their pro products. I’m sure there are others.

I’ve been to both Audio Vision SF and to Music Lovers (the one in Berkeley) several times. Music Lovers Berkeley is off the deep end.
Since you want to stay digital right through the signal chain with Meridian gear.  They really are considered the thought leader in digital processing and equipment design.  A pair of Meridian 5200s will run you in the $4-$5K range but this will include your DAC, power amplification, and indeed act as your pre-amp (volume control only).  Essentially, your digital source goes right into the Meridians and you're done.
Dynaudio has active and wireless speakers too. Check out the new Xeo2 and XD 200/400 with the 'connect' wireless box (if interested in wireless). No amp or dac needed. Only a digital source but I believe they also have analog inputs.

That said if you go the passive route I would get speakers first. To me all components are important but I believe since all speakers have a 'house' sound I think that's the place to start because again to me speakers makes the biggest difference.

Good luck
I would also wonder about the 208, a fairly large multi driver speaker,  in a 13x13 room...something you would want to listen to before buying...