Zu Definition, AG Duos orCoincident Total Victory?

This will take some A-B which there is plenty of it with AG vs. Zu but Coincident is gonna be tuff, I have heard all three, my favorite speakers for years was the Duo's, just to much money in comparison to the def's, which if you do some research beat out in many peoples eyes and ears the Duo's, however I have never heard an A-B of any combination between these 3, all different rooms and systems...

The coincidents are sweet pieces and for the money might be in the top range of value, but depending on your taste and how big your room is, or how far away you can listen will be your main concerns using any of these 3 speakers...If you want Zero compression at levels that approch insane, then the AG and Zu are obviously top of the class, but need a big room and pretty decent distance, however the Zu's will work far easier in placement issues than the AG's, every report on the Duo's are about absolute perfect placement and you need some distance from the sidewalls or you are in trouble. When I heard the Duo's in an excellent system(they were set up in a mansion) and were at least 12 ft off each sidewall with about 9 ft between, or you would get a lot of problems with those horns to close to barriers it seems. The Zu's I first heard in a Huge room as well and quite literally sat nearly 30-35 ft away and they were beyond amazing. The coincidents are guaranteed probably going to need tubes, and so will the Avant's, However Zu can definatly get away with some of even the lower end solid state and better designs. For versitility overall look at Zu and Coincident, Coincidents seem to give maybe a little more intimate sound, might be "Romantic" as people like to say, but will not keep up with the explosive openess of the other 2 speakers, in a well treated room with super smooth electronics, then the Zu and coincident again will be the choice I believe. Avantgardes are someting a bit different, and might pose some bigger obstacles to fully enjoy and to some extent are a bit pricey in comparison to the results vs. the other 2. I believe 6moons.com is a place to start on this, I think going thru their Archives they have results of all 3 of these speakers impressions thru some common reviewers.

Sorry for the Ramble.

I have heard the Duo's and Def's on a 700.00 Exposure intergrated 40 watt per channel, and it was excellent, not the best but excellent... However I will say that Tubes in the chain are always nice Period! A sweet tube pre with good but resonable priced Solid state like a mccormack, or the new First Watt amps are no slouch either.

I forgot to clarify, LOWER cost like 800-1500.00 used or possibly new solid state amps can work well with Zu, even people these days are using the Nuforce 1200.00 mono's I guess with very good results. Sorry to offend the tube God's, but I do always agree a good tube pre is needed.

Taksil , your Pathos can be perfect for any of these speakers, 30 watt solid state output will have some nice slam to it vs. completly tube at that price.. so don't be afraid to try the solid state on them, and you have some tube flavor on the input anyway of that intergrated, could be a perfect combo for any of the speakers in this hi-efficiency you seek!

And I actually don't remember where I found it, but They did compare the Victorys to Duo's stating the Victorys to have a superior integrated Bass to the Duo's, but found the dynamics more explosive with the Duo's.. And They have compared the Duo's to the Def's basically the Def's won out by far in the bass as well, and many other catagories, but If you can't hear any of these speakers for yourself you could make a mistake taking a leap of faith on a used pair of any of them on audiogon if thats what you are asking.. Of course I see no Definitions up for sale ever, but there are a couple pairs of Victory's and several Duo's all the time.