Your suggestions: Headphone + DAC/Amp combo?


I was recently banned from Audio Science Review.


The reason you ask? - Because I simply shared my experiences after visiting an audio shop. In my post, I compared what I heard at the audio shop vs brands I had previously owned or auditioned: Sabaj, Topping, and various branded dongles
I was drawn to ASR because of the supposedly “objective” reviews of audio gear with measurements.

But after the experience at the audio shop with high-end brands, my outlook completely changed. The main thing that I noticed was each of these headphone amplifiers/DACs have an unpleasant sound signature of their own. Either midrange forward, treble forward, recessed in the bass, or all the above. There was also a sterility to the sound where most music sounded dry and uninvolving. Sure, we could blame bad recordings/songs, but the same CD-Rs/.wav files were played at the audio shop…


At the shop I auditioned systems from dCS, Esoteric, Luxman, and Accuphase. Live recordings had a certain kind of "presence.” And it made me believe I was there in person. The music was all around me. Everything just sounded "real" it’s hard to explain. Even regular CD-Rs had a kind of liquidity to them…like flowing water. There was detail, clarity, and midrange tonality that my previous systems just couldn’t resolve.

I brought my AKG K872 (reference) headphones with me and tried a bunch of others at the shop from Grado, Audeze, and Focal. I have a working memory and notes of what each track was like with the K872s.

In every case I would imagine the headphones would be served better by high-end audio systems. I don’t currently own any other systems (sold the Chi-Fi)…reason I got the K872 (saved up for it) was because it helps me discern between different headphone amps and DACs. (ultra-transparent and morphs the sound with each new rig)

My question for you experts is…what does your headphone system look like/comprised of? I’m looking to achieve audio nirvana with headphones – perhaps a little less costly than the high-end brands, but with some of the same sonic characteristics.

 

Please help point me in the right direction. I’m a junior audio enthusiast.

 

Kind regards,

Frank

frank1988

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Realized I never made a recommendation. Duh. I’d highly suggest going with a separate amp and DAC as it gives you better quality and more flexibility going forward and they don’t take up much space — at least not the ones I’m recommending. If you’re open to tubes I’d highly recommend the Quicksilver Headphone Amp, which I view as quite a bargain at around $1200…

http://quicksilveraudio.com/products/headphone-amplifier/

If you’re looking to spend less, the Singxer discrete, fully-balanced Class A amp produces that smooth Class A sound at only $599 — I own it BTW…

https://www.amazon.com/Singxer-Balanced-Discrete-Single-Ended-Amplifier/dp/B08QMDM631/ref=sxts_rp_s_a_1_0?content-id=amzn1.sym.eff26b9b-e255-411b-a40d-eccb21f93fe4%3Aamzn1.sym.eff26b9b-e255-411b-a40d-eccb21f93fe4&crid=2SJ43NO9MFBWQ&cv_ct_cx=singxer+sa-1+balanced+headphone+amplifier&keywords=singxer+sa-1+balanced+headphone+amplifier&pd_rd_i=B08QMDM631&pd_rd_r=a241683e-25ff-46e5-811f-9a659b411605&pd_rd_w=xltvy&pd_rd_wg=MHISE&pf_rd_p=eff26b9b-e255-411b-a40d-eccb21f93fe4&pf_rd_r=9SQ8Z7X6NYCFDWVK4264&qid=1677792063&sprefix=Singxer+SA-1%2Caps%2C158&sr=1-1-5985efba-8948-4f09-9122-d605505c9d1e&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.945cd16f-ce11-4c6d-b7cc-e99c377ae4f0

For a DAC, the Musician Pegasus is great (I also own it) and is also a bargain at $1044 IMHO, but if you can spend around $600 more the Gustard R26 will likely give a good performance boost — both are R2R DACs BTW…
https://www.amazon.com/Musician-Pegasus-Decoder-DSD1024-Amplifier/dp/B0891SPSWJ/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1QEHF5RBVVG8N&keywords=Musician+Pegasus&qid=1677792285&s=electronics&sprefix=musician+pegasus%2Celectronics%2C138&sr=1-1

https://www.amazon.com/Gustard-R26-Discrete-R2R-DAC/dp/B0BDLJYRVN/ref=sr_1_7?crid=1QEHF5RBVVG8N&keywords=Musician+Pegasus&qid=1677792285&s=electronics&sprefix=musician+pegasus%2Celectronics%2C138&sr=1-7

Also, if you get a DAC with an i2S connection (as the ones I recommended both do) I also highly recommend getting a DDC to be able to take advantage of this connection as it made a huge difference over using an SPDIF connection and it also re-clocks the data. The Musician Pisces or Denafrips Iris (which I own) would be great choices. Sorry for being so late, but hope this helps and best of luck.