Your opinions about KOETSU URUSHI BLUE or VERMILLION


Hi I plane to buy a new cartridge, a KOETSU URUSHI BLUE or VERMILLION. But I would like to get your opinions on what is really the diffrences with BLUE and VERMILLION , Speaking of sound of course. I listen to all kind of musique, classical, very heavy rock. My others cartridges are ZYX OMEGA and BENZ LPS, do you think that the KOETSUs will get the same bass power than my others cartridges ?
Thanx


andychris

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Rather than spitting hairs among Koetsu's I would be casting a wider net and looking at the Hyperion from Soundsmith. As long as you're in that price range. Same or more output, half the moving mass, lifetime stylus replacement, best warranty in the business. What I have my eye on anyway. After the current Koetsu Black Goldline...
Dead serious. But its all a question of degree. Its all relative. That's not the point I was trying to make anyway. It was if you read it again "and this for what its worth is what he told me." So its paraphrasing not quoting but useful and something I happen to agree with- and not all that different than stuff Fremer has said- and so I put it in there.

They are very stiff cartridges and require a tonearm with a high effective mass on the order of 18 to 20 grams.

Please don't tell my Conqueror about this. It has no idea its not supposed to work so well. It might get upset. Or start slacking off, now that it has an excuse.
Yes your bass will be outstanding. Haven't heard the two you're looking at but I did have two Benzes before going to Koetsu and its a big step up across the board,  definitely including bass. Also I do have a 5 sub distributed bass array with superb deep bass, its actually now maybe the strongest aspect of my system, so if the bass coming off the Koetsu was deficient in any way it would be apparent. Its not deficient. Its awesome.

Koetsu is big money. I checked around a lot. The most knowledgeable experienced guy I could find has heard dozens of Koetsu's over decades and this for what its worth is what he told me. The reputation for soft lush euphonic yada yada goes back to the early original models which were indeed like that. A lot of this had to do with the fact that back then it was impossible to make anything like today, the capacity for refinement simply wasn't there yet, it was harsh or lush, at least by today's standards.

Since before his son took over the business though all that was gone. The son has moved things forward, with massive improvement in detail yet without ever crossing over into the hyped top end or other problems sensitive listeners experience with a lot of moving coils.

The sound you will get from either one of these will probably feel for you coming from a Benz the way it did for me. There were no big obvious changes in the sound. Koetsu is very similar to Benz, in the big picture. Yet you will soon feel its completely different in the way it brings the music right into the room. There's an effortless retrieval of subtle inner detail combined with authoritative control of dynamics that is darn near seductive. 

The difference between these high end carts as you probably already know is in these subtle refinements. For input specific to your Blue/Vermillion decision you might want to call Oswaldo. He is a Koetsu dealer, so take that into account. He has set up a lot of these and strikes me as genuinely caring about helping you find the right one. His number can be found here 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWp48WzlkMo