You don't lack bass, you have too much treble


One of the biggest surprises in audio and acoustics is how damping a room with treatments makes small speakers sound so much bigger.  Yes, you get a broader, deeper soundstage but you also seem to get a lot more bass, more power, more extension!!

What's going on? 

What happened is your room was too bright.  The overall balance was too heavy on the mid and treble so as a result your systems balance was off.

For this reason I often suggest before A'goners start chasing bigger and bigger speakers, that  they think about the room first, add damping and diffusion and then go back to thinking about the bass.

Not saying you don't need a bigger speaker, but that some rooms may never have a big enough speaker in them due to the natural reflective properties.

erik_squires

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@curiousjim ...helps to have her out of town on a sea cruise with some of her old girlfriends for a couple of days, but still runs the rise of the "WTF!?" homecoming...*L*

I've had minor success, but one has to pick very carefully.... ;)

I usually ’go flat’ to start, then tweak above 6Khz to compensate for ears with aids.

Spouses’ ears are OK, so she informs when high hi’s are ’nuff. *G*

Bass is fine: 2 - 10" in 3way driver cabs, mids & tweets disconnected.
A single self-powered 8" in it’s own original cab.
When the Walsh get to harmonize, the upper bass/mid cones are equivalent to a 7" in surface area and make for a nice ’fill’ in the near ’back’ (Just don’t have the floor space for Everything front stage....).

If that ever becomes boring or seeming to be weak....which I can overdrive the space now....

2- 18"s. 1 - 12", and a 10" that has a mag structure as big as a 100’ spool of #12 speaker cable and weighs ’bout 30ish lbs. by itself....all of these desire a cab that I don’t have the room or the amps to do it all some form of injustice....

Oh, and there’s the 2 - 12" Utah’s with their matching expo horns that could punch through all that, even set up like a NY Ohm as they is...done for grins and a way to store them....

If the treble needs more than the pair of large Heil amts’....got another pair. ;)

Yes, Erik....absolutely crazed. *L*

But....Not Insane.👍😎

Without bass, you're in a lot of treble.

Yes, we is...and with that pun, I'll hit the parking brake with this:

Bacons' great except during sex.....you end up biting the wrong things.
...and the grease is too salty...

Sorry, Erik.....

Let's get back to bass fishing....

@curiousjim ....and no amount of potted palms for disguise or camo.....

Forecast: Immediate loud, followed by tense quiet accompanied by 'dry' spell....

Been lucky, not much of that in my local whether....;)

"...pass the Denifrips...thanx,,,,now, some of that dacBS for..."

"Later tonight on Cooking with the 'Phile's........."

...and I'll vote with @jkf011 , ultimately.  Too much I relate to the 'basser's that cruise about, megawatt subs up to anything loose in the ride rattling...

Great for one's GI tract, I'd guess...not my problem, tho'...🤷‍♂️

Dial them in to what seems to fit the mix and/or program.  I can dish out plenty, but know when it's 'quite enough, thenkewu....'

Been around enough garage bands, gone to enough concerts, rattled enough glassware...😏

@mahgister 20hz in your 'phones?  

Take care there, Rock'nRoller.... ;)

Better off making self a tactile bass shaker suit.....

"See the man vibin' down the street....'citing all the windows he meets...

Mahg's the Bassman....vibin' all the fans..."

(Appropo....playlist just brought up N. Youngs' Rockin' in the Free World....*L*)

@mahgister *S* Just wanted to register some concern, but thought your usual approach to items audio would prevail...

Having had some 'sudden surprises' with headphones over my times, I've taken to initially park them 'off ear, dj style' if doing something novel.

Beats throwing them across the room...*L*

Best & better back 'atcha', J