Yamaha HX-10000 phonostage, any views?

Audio Equipment of this type, comes from the Good Olden Days era, at the time when the Bean Counters stepped aside, leaving those who knew a thing or two about Structures and Electronic Circuits to show off their Plumages, especially where they were not expected to express any concern for what their choices were to promote and the negative impact of such choices. The idea of exploiting Raw Earth with abandonment of showing any concern was the Zeitgeist for this era.

These Brands won their admirers, even though all involved were clearly showing showing they were I'll informed of what such excesses can create.

As seen from all the Mainstay Japanese Brands offering Audio Devices from this era, the devices produced as their exclusive TOTR Sale Items were typically coming with materials that were selected for their Mass and Volume. 

Fortunately, It was soon to be learnt in the World of Audio Equipment, betterment was able to be attained using a lot lot less Volume and as time evolved Mass was also seen to be a betterment if substantially reduced.

In the modern world, if a Japanese Vintage design can be taken on and repurposed where it finds a much extended usage life, then why not make this the objective.

Adopting the usage of the Olden Day Items and giving them new purpose is taking part in the Circular Economy and the individual supporting this, is participating at the the best that can be put in place. 

Such an adoption certainly makes amends for the naivety seen from the creations from past periods of commercial production.

I very recently lost out on a Pre Amp from another Japanese Brands TOTR offerings from the 90's. The Casing will have been used and repurposed for an up to date Pre Amp Circuit to be housed on.

To have a casing produced today of the same bulk and quality of finish, will have cost approx' £/$K+ as a Bespoke Design. I was more than happy to part with a third of this value, to own the case belonging to the Pre' and have it used with the odd modification for the rest of my using audio equipment days to come, no reason why the casing should not have a option to be in use for the best part of a 50ish year life and hopefully more id the Circular Economy grows with its following of supporters.    .       

Hats off to the individuals giving extend life to the GT 2000 and the HX 10000, hopefully the TT is adorned with a Tonearm from a similar Vintage.

Hats off to the others who have adopted other Brand TT's and Supporting Ancillaries from this period of Japanese Production, it takes balls to get on board. Many run for cover, when close to the subject, as the latest offering in the Market and Newer the Upgrade added can only be better. "Can't It" ?

The Circular Economy is steadily becoming the Trend, for those participating both knowingly or unknowingly, selecting the GT 2000 for such a purpose is one to aspire to, if having a readily available access to an analogue Source is the goal. Add to this the purchasing of Vinyl produced from the Hey Day for Vinyl and this will be a wonderful combination, it will keep the joy's of experiencing recorded music alive.

There are also the added bonuses, where Pollution produced is less, from the not  buying into modern production and avoiding the need for managing of Scrap, both being avoided will be keeping the Landfills in a better condition.       

The Pioneer Exclusive C7 I was thinking could be won for approx' £300 was sold in auction for £1600.  Hey Ho, back to the Nicely Figured Walnut Side Panels with Polished Brass Top Face for the Pre Amp's casing. 

Since my 845 Mono's have been converted to Balanced and the impression made being more than anticipated for the better, I took on a new interest in what the Pre' Amp Design should be able to do for my purposes.

I now have all the Parts for a earlier Pre Amp Design that is to be a Dual Mono Balanced Design and have added to the options to experience an alternate take on a Pre Amp' Design as a Dual Mono Design to be both Single Ended and work with the Balanced Power Amp's.

The alternate design for a Pre Amp' is my conception given to an individual with over 40 years experience of a career being a designer / builder of Valve and Solid State Devices. The shaping of my conceptual thoughts by this individual has been extremely interesting.

As a Tease I already have in use a Prototype Single Box version of the SS Section for the Pre, which is becoming quite addictive to experience. Other Pre's both SS and Valve that have been used in comparison to the prototype, off which all have been quite attractive in use, have not been able to maintain the role as the Pre' that most impresses. They have been swapped out to return to use of the Prototype,  .

The BOM for both Amps is close to £1500 +/- £250 - £500 for Valves and +/- £400 - £500 for the Chassis. Design Charge and Labour Charges are yet to be added. 

I would have had one built as a Single Box using the C7 Chassis with modifications, if I won it at close to £300.  

The HX-10000 is guaranteed to be one thing, being it is a product from a Bygone Era, and has all the traits that come from the Top Tier Brands from a certain Global Region producing Audio Equipment from that Era.

I stated in a earlier in the Thread Post: 

" As seen from all the Mainstay Japanese Brands offering Audio Devices from this era, the devices produced as their exclusive TOTR Sale Items were typically coming with materials that were selected for their Mass and Volume. 

Fortunately, It was soon to be learnt in the World of Audio Equipment, betterment was able to be attained using a lot lot less Volume and as time evolved Mass was also seen to be a betterment if substantially reduced. "

Large Companies once had the pick of the Newly Educated Scholars entering into the Big Wide World. Company Philosophy will have been the main aim, with R&D tightly tracing the Companies wants. Across Competitors based in a similar region Globally, all were doing similar practices, recruiting scholars and training them to the place where between Brands much of a muchness was their separation. 

  I have heard numerous Vintage Equipment that is SS and Valve Based, where SS equipment is from the era of much of a muchness as a separation between them.

I have not heard one that did not supply a musical experience that was not enjoyed, but at the same time, I did not have an experience that resulted in my feeling the need to have a device readily available at hand, but that is for myself.

A friend who is a EE and a individual I totally Trust in all things Audio, but especially the Analogue Side, has Overhauled a large range of Amp's from this era. The same Person also has used for multiple years a Sansui Amp, which I have heard on quite a few occasions and been more than satisfied with what was experienced.

With the local support that can be used if a purchase of this Type was to be realised, the idea to go in that direction does not appeal.

Using a BOM of approx' £2000 I can go to a Individual who knows more about Phonostage Design in relation to modern methods able to be adopted, who I will feel will have more worldly knowledge than EE's under the constraint of Corporate Companies Philosophy and have designs that are surpassing that from a bygone era from certain designs.

For such monies, even If I were to enforce my influence onto the design, I could have a 10mm Densified Wood Chassis, I might even be able to Wangle a Densified Wood PCB if a PCB was part of the design.

I will get PC CCC wire used on conjunction with very high quality Cable Connections.

I will also be supplied a Phonostage that will be hard to surpass in the measurements taken.

Such an opportunity makes the idea of going back in time to try and move forward in time, be an avoidance of the use of very accurate components from the modern era, produced to a Topology by an individual who knows the importance of such practices. Being Nostalgic towards a Olden Device in this area of Audio seems from my eyes to be a waste of a Opportunity. 

I would be extremely keen to learn what  £5K BOM can bring to fruition.       

I assume that mass means weight, and "volume" is a reference to the physical size

Volume refers to an abundance of Parts used for the Topology and Abundance of Parts.

After having been involved with EE's and EE's that moved on to become the Proprietors of Sales Business and Directors of Manufacturing Companies producing Audio Devices. I am aware there are different ethics today, how one expresses care for the Atmosphere and Pollution capable of getting into the Local Environment are considerations seen attractive for an individual to have. 

I am fortunate I meet individuals who have this as a fundamental and pass on this side of their practices to others building on the encouragement.

I have found my way by being pro-active in participating in the Circular Economy.

My Hobby of listening to Audio has a Green Footprint, my interest in experiencing a broad range of Audio, has produced a little more C02 than some others, but possibly a lot less than a constant equipment changer, chasing the audio dream whilst grasping the Greasy Pole to be climbed.