I mean, of course, that I have Diamond RCAs in my main system.
So, adg101 and I agree - get the Platinum if you can, if not - Silver is very good too.
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I use Silver Juice Digital with the Burson Audio DAC. It is very clear and balanced, just like Wywires RCAs. Could use a bit more power and could have a deeper bass and better soundstage. I did not compare Wywires power cords, only RCA interconnects, but still I would probably suggest getting Platinum instead of Silver. Diamond should be great, if it is as good as RCA. That's what I currently use in the main system. |
After 15 hours of play the difference between Silver and Platinum became larger. So if you can find it used go for Platinum, you are very unlikely to regret it. I can see that some dealer sells new it here for $1150, full retail is $1800. Between WyWires Platinum and Tchernov Reference MK II...close, very close in my system, and I only have analog sources. I prefer WyWires with acoustic music, it is a little more sophisticated, and it is a nearly a draw with electric with Tchernov having a very slight edge because it is a touch more powerful. I could live happily with either and I will - I need them both. Silver goes to ebay. |
Alex of WyWires has said that the cables should settle for about 30 hours after not being used for some time, so I'll post in a few weeks. |
Got them today, unexpectedly earlier than I thought.
They appear to be fully burnt in but I'll see. This is preliminary because I only listened with Grado RS1 Classic headphones and Burson Soloist headamp. I also made recording directly off the phono stage on Maxell Vertex tape, Nakamichi 682ZX tape deck, and listened thru the Naks headphone amp.
The results of both comparisons were the same. Alex's choice of words "considerably better than Silver" was absolutely correct.
Please understand that the Silver is a really excellent cable but..
The Platinum sounds deeper, fuller, more confident, a touch warmer with better instrument and note separation. More sophisticated while maintaining a kind of soaring elegance to it. Silence is even more silent.
Overall it just sounds significantly nicer and more natural. It feels like a complete design, something was to a degree missing in the Silver that is not in the Platinum. Definitely less distortion and more details.
I'll get back to this next week when I have an opportunity to listen thru speakers. |
The weak point of Redgum is the power supply - the amp plays great when the wall current is good and it sounds like crap when it isn't. I have the original RGi120 made in 2001, considered by some best sounding. Perhaps it was designed for different time, not that I would expect top power supply in $1.5k integrated, but still it could've been better. I've had it for seven years and would only upgrade to Gryphon or some Swiss integrated if I wanted to continue with integrated amps, which in fact I don't but might have to. |
I actually got acquainted with WyWires almost by an accident. I was not going to do any upgrades in the near future, I just wanted to add heaphone amp to my system for night time listening. So I looked and read around a little and Burson Audio original Soloist caught my eye. And since I thought this would not be a critical listening anyway I would use some entry level cables from my Redgum integrated tape outs. But, the Soloist is also a Class A preamp, and when I received it first thing I did out of curiosity was to put it between the source and the integrated. The Redgum has a passive preamp section and the Burson has three gain level settings - great idea. Also, the Redgum doesn't even have amp in input, I plugged the Burson right into the line in input. And it has been staying there ever since. It improved the sound in almost every aspect except resolution, which might be very very slightly down. Soundstage remained the same or a touch better. Well, now I needed real cables, and since I couldn't find any used Purist Neptune or Tchernov Reference MK II, that work very well in my system, I somehow thought that WyWires could complement them. And the Silver did. I expect the Platinum to take it further. Putting $1800 interconnect on $1200 phono stage is somewhat extravagant, though before I inserted the Burson in the chain I had $1500 Tchernov there. I don't have a high resolution system, it is a very solid mid-fi, but the system is very sensitive and can be taken to a totally different performance level with great cables and power cords. I tried $100-$700 cables and cords before I settled for what I have now, it was totally inadequate, though not a bad sound. |
Sure will. I will have them next week.
What am I going to do with the Silver ? I don't want to sell it but I don't have more equipment to put it on ! Except cd player in the closet that I use twice a year or so. Hmm..I'll figure it out. |
You convinced me to give it a try. I have no doubts it will be better than Silver, just don't know to what extent.
Found one for an acceptable price. Could get new Purist Aqueous Luminist for about the same but I am quite sure that WyWires Platinum would be better with the phono stage in my current system. If I could get Purist Neptune for a comparable price - that would be tough, but you can never find used Neptune and new is now probably close to $1500. |
Yeah, the Silver line appears to be very successful and is still moderately priced. Platinum is $1800 retail for 1 Meter pair, it might be adequate or not, I don't know. The Silver, judging by RCA interconnects and USB cable, certainly is. It is overall almost as good as Tchernov Reference MK II, $1500 cable, in my system, and is slightly better in some areas. |
I did ask Alex, he said that the difference would be considerable. He also did offer me a demo for a good price, but that price was still too high for me and I was not sure, anyway. No, he was very reserved, just offered to upgrade - he would take the Silver demo back.
adg101, no this is my only Wywires cable in the system. I have no intention to replace my other cables, at least for now, just one cable for the phono stage. How are his power cords ? In fact, I might want to try one on the phono later. |
That's how I got the Silver, I asked Alex if he had some demo cables and he did.
Exactly. Dynamics is just right, nothing is exaggerated, detailed but not overly so, no harshness.
Also, I may be wrong but I suspect that somehow his Litz copper matches well with my Nottingham tonearm Litz wiring harness that goes into the phono stage. I didn't try it with digital because I currently don't have any digital in my system. |
