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Wow, now it's a conspiracy. They're all after me. It took you this long to come up with this argument? I'm not in cahoots with anyone here. Nor, unlike you, do I follow others just to get in their faces. You have an agenda, which seems to be your hobby. You've gotten into many a dispute with others here and keep hounding them. The best outcome here would be to never trade ink with you again, but, you just keep on provoking, trying to get the last word, coming up with inane angles for your protestations. You need to move on. All the best, Nonoise |
I can see why you've changed your handle about half a dozen times now. Not a mark of a stable personality. No special pleading, please. Do you honestly think I'm appealing to the likes of you? The quicker you go away and start anew with a new handle, the better for the rest of us. All the best, Nonoise |
Dude, you are one really out on a vendetta. I’m not the one who’s incensed, you are. Stop projecting and trying to turn the argument on it’s head as to who’s all worked up. You’ve taken steps to back off and quit being an PITA, trying the therapist angle but it’s a little too late. Have you ever had a set up where the imaging was really good and the speakers rarely ever drew attention to themselves? And all it took was a cable swap and the imaging fell apart with the speakers being more the source of the sound? Or do you feel that any cable will get the same results? All the best, Nonoise |
Multiple Migs, You really need to get a hobby. Would you have not blown your top if I had said it differently, like the imaged fattened up and seemed bloated? That, and where in hell did you get the 10º-20º degree shift? Are you capable of remote viewing? Tell me, just how large is the image of Elinor Frey playing the prelude for Bach’s Suite No.1 for solo cello in my living room and just how far to the left is the center of my left speaker? How far back do I sit? You’re going overboard in opening your mouth and removing all doubt. All the best, Nonoise |
Sorry, many faces of whatever, but the connections were tight. It was the image that was smeared. Notice in the quote that I said some of it went about 1/3 to the left, not all of it. In your eagerness to be a PITA you pounced before you looked. But being you, I don't expect you to say anything productive. All the best, Nonoise |
Talk about a 180. Listening to the cooper set up I was noting the pluses and minuses. It was when I put on a solo cello was when I heard the grossest event. The cello was playing dead center and as it played, some of it went about 1/3 of the way to the left when it always stayed nice and centered. I chalked that up to the stranded wire. There was also some sibilance in the upper mids where it never existed before. Enough of this. When putting the Cabledyne Virtuosos back it (and not looking forward to using the Tempo Electric) I remembered the lower line of Cabledyne SCs that I had and put them in. It's their entry line of silver cables that also uses OCC stranded silver but in a lower tech jacket, sheathed in copper with BFA bananas. The last time I tried them in a bi wire set up was before I got my power conditioner, footers and before I switched the filter setting on my SACD player. It had an etched sound to it. Wondering how I was going to use two banana connectors on one input, I just unloosened the plastic cover on the speaker output as far as it would go and saw my opening: the bare wire insert was large enough to accommodate the banana so I put it in, tightened it down, and use the regular input for the other banana. It's game over for me now. With OCC stranded silver in both cables of the same make and length, my speakers now sing with one unified voice, the likes of which I've never experienced. As Alex said, in A Clockwork Orange, "it's clear as a sky of azure blue: clear as an unmuddied lake." Now I know what coherence is. There's no sign of aggressiveness, glare, bite, etch, or forwardness. No leading edge to speak of. Just music that's full, detailed, balanced and natural. There's real silence when the music pauses. I don't know why Cabledyne went out of business but that former Belden engineer who designed these cables knew what he was doing. All the best, Nonoise |
Well, I just went into the rabbit hole and this is one large warren. Going through my SC pile I dug out a set of Supra Ply with tinned ends and replaced the Tempo Electrics with them. I haven't tried them since I got my power conditioner, fuses, footers, etc. so it's been a good many years. By themselves and with proper jumpers, they injected too much smoke into the mix and were weak in the bass. Now, when being used in a bi wire set, they inject just enough smoke so as to take away the sharp outlines that the silver cables provide. Just enough to take away that you are there in the recording studio feeling to now being out in the audience. Every single thing I hear in with the silver cables is present, but not as prominent in the leading edge. There's a kind of burnishing of the sound with small doses of honey that fleshes out voices, instruments and the like and is really captivating. Hearing that, I went and swapped out the Cabledyne Virtuosos with a pair of Zu Events and it was kind of a let down with regards to bass. Kind of hard to tell so I ran my CD burn in disc and will keep them in for a week or so to see how they fare. What I intend to do is see if I can go with an all copper route with a nice bi wire set. This will be interesting since my JBLs are truly meant to be bi wired and this is just the start of things. All previous conceptions seem to be going out the proverbial window. It seems like Vandersteen was right when he said one must remove the bass cabling from the rest of the spectrum as it interferes too much with it. All the best, Nonoise |
@audioquest4life , My Tempo Electric SCs are both 8' for the 16 GA and I believe 6' for the 14 GA. In addition to the Tempo Electric on the highs, I'm using my trusty old Cabledyne Virtuoso SCs for the bass. They are 10 GA OCC stranded silver with Furutech locking bananas and I really hate the idea of taking them out of the equation as they perform admirably. They're even better sounding than the Tempo Electric, IMHO. Quite the quandary I'm in, ain't I? All the best, Nonoise |
@williewonka , Actually, I was using a pair of DH Labs silver plated OFC copper jumpers and for the longest time, and thought they were great. It was when I tried using the Tempo Electrics on the high connectors was when I realized some musical information was AWOL, along with cleaner and clearer highs and lows. This will take some time. 😄 All the best, Nonoise |
The answers here, so far, have been far from random. What they do seem is to indicate a particular direction to go. Soon, I'm going to be experimenting with some copper bi wire cables and if that is a bust, then my next move will be to take my two Tempo Electric speaker cables and maybe bi wire them using a KLE Harmony banana that can accept two different cables and use that for the amp end and use some single bananas for the speaker end and see how that fares. Tempo Electric were the best SCs I've encountered when I had my Tonian Labs TL-D1s. Nothing else came close, in my limited experience. It was only when I got my JBLs is where the Tempo Electrics fell short, and that may very well be that the speaker needs to be bi wired to sound it's best. It's the way I have it now with two different style cables and it's much better sounding that way already. The jumpers were holding things back. Time will tell. All the best, Nonoise |
@williewonka Not that you need any validation but Roger Skoff has long argued that cables are just another form of capacitors, though not intended to work that way. https://positive-feedback.com/audio-discourse/capacitors-speakers-cables-and-other-magic-stuff/ All the best, Nonoise |