Wilson WP 7 with Air Tight ATM 211

+1 on the VAC / WP pairing. i've been running these for a few months now and am extremely impressed.

Hi Lenny & Welcher
Yes a good valve preamplifier matched with a excellent solid state power amplifier is a very nice blend of both amplifier designs, excellent sonic results can be achieved this way.

Welcher, the Wilson Watt puppy 7 will run with SET amplifiers of higher out put like 845, 211, 833A etc fine.
Usually it is easier and more affordable to use a more powerful Push Pull valve amplifier to get excellent results with the Wison speakers, and as a general statement more dynamic results.
If cost is no object then there is always exceptions of course, like the Lamm ML3, WAVAC HE 833A etc.

May I ask why tubes? I know the usual arguments about SS, but in the course of auditioning new electronics for my WP 7s, I auditioned CJ and Ayre MX-Rs. IMO, the MX-Rs were more pleasing by a wide margin and have none of the problems driving these speakers that others have highlighted. I'd give them a serious listen. If you wish to have an element of tubes in your system, do it with a pre amp such as a Nagra PL-L or other fine tube based preamps out there.

I use Watt/Puppy 7's with Cary 805C (845 tube). It is a very good match. Before purchasing the watt/puppies I contacted Wilson and they stated they have demonstrated the 7's with Cary 805's at audio show's in the past.

The Air Tight ATM-2 stereo amplifier at 80 watts would be fine on the Wilson Watt Puppy 7.
I use the Air Tight ATM-2 amplifier to drive my Harbeth range of loudspeakers with ease, many people also use this amplifier with Sonus Faber speakers.
The SET amplifiers are better suited to more efficient speakers 93 db speakers upwards to get the best sonic results.

Raquel, I did not think the dartZeel amplifier used valves!!

The best sounding solid state amplifiers in my opinion are Class A biased like the Pass Labs.

The Air Tights probably don't have the most robust power supplies. However, their transformers are made by Tamura -- one of the best in the industry. It probably has more to do with the design topology. I've heard good things about the darTZeels but they're out of my price range. Thanks for the feedback.

The Lamm's use extremely expensive output transformers and have excellent power supplies, the result being that their wattage rating is largely meaningless and they can control speakers that ostensibly much more powerful tube amps cannot. I still doubt, however, that they are as quick as they need to be to accurately reproduce upright double bass on a speaker with an impedence that drops below 3 Ohms in the bass.

As for Air Tight, I think it is superb equipment, but a $10k tube amp made by a builder having Japanese labor costs is not going to have output transformers of the quality needed to control a speaker that drops below 3 ohms in the bass (output transformers are by far the biggest single cost in building a good tube amp, and really good transformers are really expensive). The $50k Air Tight Reference, however, is another story, as are Audio Valve's big Challenger monoblocks, the CAT amps and VAC's best amps. I can suggest the VAC 70/70, as it can drive low impedences (it is totally dual mono, all the way down to two separate power cords), is very transparent and can be had for $5k-$6k used, but there will still be some tubbiness to the bass.

Have you considered the darTZeel?

Thanks for your response. I've seen WP7s driven by 18WPC Lamm SET gear and sounded wonderful. Are the ATM211s less capable of handling difficult loads than the Lamm ML2s?

While advertised as a highly efficient speaker that can be driven by lower wattage tube amps, the WP7 drops well below 3 ohms in the bass and features a high phase angle at around 60 Hz., the result being that only a small handful of tube amps will be able to control its woofers and drive the speaker with authority. In addition, the speaker's somewhat tipped up midbass would exaggerate any difficulty a tube amp would have controlling the woofers. Air Tight makes very fine gear and the WP7 is a great speaker, but you don't want to run a speaker like this with such an amp (not unless you limit yourself to chamber music).