Wilson Benesch Torus and Thiel SS2 subwoofers


Wilson Benesch Torus and Thiel SS2 subwoofers. Anybody compared those two subwoofers.

Verry different approach to design and different approach to integration with main speakers.

Any opinion about general performance?
milimetr

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If you can afford the Torus Infrasonic Generator buy it, I think you will find it is the best piece of audio gear that you have ever had.

Milimetr

Your comments
"Thiel sub in comparison with Torus can go audibly lower in bass, but the most important difference is that Thiel subwoofer is capable of output very resolved sound and definitely more punchy bass. Thiel bass is short, deep and punchy."

beg for a response. I have never been to any live performance were I could honestly say the band/orchestra had a "punchy" bass. Punchy is just not a musical term, at least in my mind. No the Torus does not have a punchy bass it will however reproduce the actual music. The Torus amplifier has a set of switches on the bottom that allow you to adjust the low frequency roll off. If you would like to go lower you might want to adjust those to the lowest possible output. I roll mine off at 20hz. (not into organs).

I think some users who are not used to such a clean and tight bass might be surprised by the sound of the Torus. Unlike everyother sub I have heard it will complete disappear. An unlike every other sub I have heard it does not double up.

Spend some time with the upper lead in frequency. That also makes a large difference in the overall sound. I bring in the Torus at about 60 hz with the Wilson benesch Curves and about 40 hz with the Wilson benesch A.C.T.'s.

Every speaker is going to be different.
Milimetr

Try placing the Torus directly in between the two main speakers. I know this is a bit of a shocker but in that location you will actually improve the sound stage, imaging and sense of air. It works almost like a center fill loudspeaker.

Phamble

My guess is the problem is not with the setting of the Torus but rather your Discovery's (how do you like them by the way). So much nicer to get the speakers away from the back and side walls. Is that possible or is that the reason you have monitors in the first place, small room and not many possibilities for placement.

Try setting the Torus to come in at about 40 hz with the low filter at 20hz. At that setting even with the volume up on the Torus you should still have pretty tight and not over the top bass.

let me know how that goes.

Jim