Wilson Audio Haters


I've always wondered why there are so many people out there, that more than any other speaker manufacturer, really hate the Wilson line. I own Maxx 2's and also a pair of Watt Puppys. They are IMHO quite wonderful.

Why does Wilson get so much thrashing?

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Showing 9 responses by cleeds

^^^^^ Here's another profane and abusive post from Bo that will surely be deleted.
bo1972
I think it is time for Wilson Audio to create a new and better look. You see this as negative, but it is not.

In Europe there are many people who think they are ugly.
Perhaps. Obviously, Wilson customers don't agree with you or those "many people" that you cite.

You've expressed your distaste for Wilson speakers many, many times here. Why should the company try to appeal to you? You're not their customer ... or dealer!
dlcockrum
... single mike recordings usually giving the best illusion of accurate spatial imaging of the actual performance
How can you capture depth with just a single microphone? Do you actually think monophonic recordings have better "spatial imaging" than a good stereo - or binaural - recording?
dlcockrum
Single mike recording is not the same thing as monophonic playback, which blends the lateral information into a single source of sound.

One microphone captures the spatial information (distances from the microphone) most accurately if done correctly, vs multi-mike recording where the mixing/mastering engineer (hopefully) blends multiple microphone tracks to simulate correct placement of the instruments, too often using artificial reverb or other techniques to do so. This is called "mixing".

Try Cowboy Junkies, "The Trinity Session" to see what I mean ...
I think this is an issue of semantics. Trinity Session was recorded with a stereo microphone, so calling it a "single mic" effort is a bit confusing.

There's nothing inherently advantageous about the Calrec mic used on Trinity Session. Proper stereo X/Y and M/S mic techniques can result in excellent imaging and stereo reproduction.
bo1972
There is one big thing you forget, all audio shops work by trial and error.
And you base this claim on ... what? Do you sincerely believe that there is not an audio store on the planet that doesn't know how to  use measurements and the scientific method?

bo1972
.... It has nothing to do with personal taste. We see that all people understand that it owns a lower level of emotion ...
Oh no, it is all about taste, Bo. Because every system is imperfect, it is up to each listener to decide for himself what he prefers.

To all people I can explain it very easilly
You haven't shown that here yet!

bo1972YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND IT ...
Shouting won't help, Bo.
I think most readers here do understand "it" just fine, by the way. It's pretty clear that causes you a lot of frustration!

Where I think Bo reveals his hubris is the claim:
It has nothing to do with a personal taste. People in audio think and believe the best way of creating an audio system is based on personal preference.
Really, this whole hobby is about preference, isn’t it? Yes, there are objective measurements and observations that we can make. But even the best audio system is just an imitation of the real thing, so some kinds of trade-offs have to be made along the way.

The preferences never end ... from choosing formats to taste in music, from deciding what’s reasonable to spend to deciding how much time we’re willing to commit to maintenance and tweaking. The notion that any one person can decide what’s best for me or you - especially in an internet forum with people we can’t possibly know - is just beyond silly.

Frankly, no matter the context: I don’t trust self-proclaimed gurus. That’s rarely where knowledge is found, ime. Some of the most knowledgeable people here are the most patient and polite.
shadorne
With small 8" woofers obviously you need a subwoofer.
Not necessarily. The Infinity RS1-B speaker system used 8-inch woofers, and it surely didn't need a subwoofer. To be fair, it did use six of them per side.