Will the Thiel CS2.4 fit in my car?


I will be picking up a pair of Thiel CS2.4 at UPS tomorrow.  Do you think they will fit in my car?I drive a small BMW 2004 3's coupe.  I hope I can fit on in the trunk and another one in frontof the passenger seat.
andy2

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I plan to fold down the back seat.  The Thiels is a bit narrow so I will place one on the side in the trunk length-wise.  The front passenger side should fit one.
I once took a pair of Spendor S9 in my 1998 Accord, but the Accord is slightly bigger than my BMW 3's series.  So hopefully they'll fit.
Actually no.  The boxes turn out to be a bit too big for the car.  I already have someone with a SUV to help me tomorrow.

I thought I would be able to listen to some Thiels tonight but will have to wait.  I am just hoping they won't be damaged during shipping (all the way from New York to SoCal).
I got two rigs.  One is Arcam CD23, Conrad Johnson 17LS and Simaudio Moon W-3.
The other is Ayre QB9 DSD, Pass Lab XP10 and SImaudio W7.

Anyway, just got the Thiel home.  Very nice sounding.  It's natural and neutral at the same time.  Not bright at all. But it does have it's own sound due to using a small mid range driver.  I'll post my thoughts over at the Thiel's thread.
A small midrange driver has the advantage of better
transient and speed and probably because of that,
has better clarity. It is also easier to cross to
the tweeter because it has a wide dispersion at around
3khz which is the typical cross over point to the tweeter
for most speakers. The disadvantage of a small midrange
driver is it lacks lower midrange weight vs. say a
5.5in. midrange driver. You could neutralize that
by crossing a small mid range driver to the bass driver
at a higher frequency. For example, a typical 5.5in
midrange driver crosses to the bass driver at around
300 to 400hz. For the small mid range driver of the CS2.4,
you have to cross higher, and I believe from Stereophile
measuremnt page, the CS2.4 cross over point is around 1KHz
between the mid and the bass driver.

The weakness of a larger mid range driver, such as the
5.5in is that at 3khz, it starts beaming so its dispersion
is different from the tweeter so the listening window
is a bit narrower, but it can be done. You could cross
over a 5.5in to the tweeter at a lower freq. maybe around
2.5khz or 2.0khz to improve dispersion but crossing the
tweeter low has its own problem too. I guess it's
a matter of compromise. One is better at higher freq.
and the other is better at the lower freq. One is clearer
and cleaner, whereas the other is a bit warmer and fuller
at the lower midrange freq. I guess it depends on your
preference.

Regardless of how the cross over points are implemented,
ultimately the physics of the size will dictate the sound.
I think that's why many people have said the CS2.4
can sound a bit lean. I don't think in the absolute sense,
they sound lean, but in relative to other speakers that
use larger mid range driver, they do sound a bit lean
relatively. That does not mean they sound bright by
any mean.
I live on the west coast where temperature is
very moderate so I guess that's why a lot more
people are driving smaller import cars. On the
east and midwest, I notice people drive a lot
more larger domestic cars. Is it because the wheather
condition is quite a bit harsher vs. the west coast.