Why so many used focals?


I look on the forums to read and learn about owners reactions about focals and compared to many brands there's little action which would make me think it's a small company... til I search on AG for used focal speakers and pages of used speakers come up! Are they the type of speakers that offer a clear upgrade path OR are they short term speakers that wow the listener early and fatigue in the long term?

I couldn't be in the same room with focal's from the 90's, but the recent speakers have been very pleasing to the ear in auditions. Experienced reply's would be appreciated and please no hating on the brand. Tks
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I didn’t come here to spread false information. I bought a pair of 1038 be $10,500, the CC1008 $2100, a pair of 1008 Be $3100, a pair of SR 1000 be (used as new) $3000, a third SR 1000 be (used as new) $600, the Dome 2.1 $600, the Clear Pro $1200. Send me your email, I’ll show you the dealers and even the invoices. The dealer cost of most speakers is 50%, may be as low as 40%. People think Music Direct is the best place to get a good deal. There are at least two better places with even better price.
With manufacturer warranty, you can buy Focal speakers at 20% - 30% discount. Without warranty, you can buy them at 40% discount. For good like new speakers, they're sold at 50% of the retail price. I have a pair of Electra 1038 Be, CC1008 center speaker, 3 SR 1000 Be, and 4 IC1002 ceiling speakers. In my office, the little Naim Unitilite is powering a pair of 1008 Be bookshelf and the Dome Pack 2.1. When I don't want to disturb my wife, I wear the Clear Pro or sometimes the new Elegia. There are many great speakers out there as you have listed them, I like Focal better than the B&W.
I bought those speakers three years ago, not today sir. For any speakers, not only focal speakers, you can make a deal with at least 20% especially in today high end market. Dealers don't like it, of course. A dealer in Virginia will accept any reasonable deal for many branches of speakers. Again, if you plan to buy speakers, think of at least 20% because speakers have greater margin than components.
High end local dealers won't stay for too long unless they have online sale and have an attractive price policy. For example, the hassle of buying bulky items online is that if you want to return, the shipping fee and insurance will be hundreds of dollars. So a local dealer can match the online price. (Again, dealers make good profit on speakers anyway.) In the case a customer wants to return the speakers, the restocking fee then will be charged comparable to the shipping fee. Anyway, In the Unites States, the high end business will die with the baby boomer generation (my generation) and may be even before that because our ears gradually can no longer hear sound in details as we did 20 years ago.