Why so many problems with martin logan?


I have owned 8 pairs had problems with allmost all of them .3 pairs where deliverd in damaged or missing parts ,or wrinkled pannels.Or cosmetic damage.I like the sound but have found a better way so Iam glad I have moved on .Since I havent owned M/L the other speakers I have purchased worked right out of the box with out many calls to my dealer and martin logan .Iam talking about there new models .Just wondering if others have had these problems ?Thxs for your imput.JK
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I currently own 6 ML speakers (Odyssey / Cinema / Scenarios / Descent) and have bought and sold a pair of Aerius i's; I've never had anything go wrong whatever. A friend of mine has two pairs (CLS and Aerius) and again, no issues whatever.

Judging by the shipping cartons that I have, there would have to be complete malfeasance in shipping to cause problems.

There must be some sort of local disturbance in your area.
The shipping issue was on a used sale, it was discussed in a different thread - it had nothing to do with ML or any dealer.

Given that the panels can age or get dirty, and given that there are a lot of new people buying used, sometimes very old ML speakers, there are bound to be some problems and questions. A couple threads lately, but not a lot that I've noticed - 2 yeras ago I bought a used pair of SL3 that have been flawless, so much so that I recently bought used CLSII, and the problem I had was not with ML, rather that 14 year old panels were represented as new.
Sounds like Johnk is making this up. Eight pairs - OK. Who is the dealer so we can check this out. I hate fake threads like this bashing something that was not the fault of the manufacturer or dealer.
I have had 3 pairs which includes the pair I Currently own and have never had a damaged pair. Why would you buy 8 pairs of a speaker which you have had Nemours problems with?????????? I took 8 pairs to move on??
Dear Lpg:

I understand that it seems suspect and exaggerated, but I believe him with his numbers.

I want to say that I am proud to know Johnk personally. He is a prodigious acquirer of all gear, especially speakers. I personally purchased two Martin Logan speakers from him that were part of two different systems. I remember seeing him with some older stuff years ago too. I have never seen anyone own as much product as this man. Constantly churning systems. My friends think I am obsessed and I think that Johnk is pretty obsessed compared to me.

If you check his feedbacks, you will get an idea just how much he has gone through since joining this community. He is not a reseller or a dealer, nor is he affiliated with any audio company. He just owned much more than I ever will.