Free speech!!!!!????? Really? I didn't see anyone stand up for Millercarbon's "free speech"! Some have pointed out his poor manners. Yet these deniers have some of the worst manners. They mock, ridicule and implicate that those who HAVE heard the tweaks are a liar. Then others pile on with their offensive behavior until the whole thread gets removed. Perfect Path Tech always gets cancelled for that very reason.Nano-flo gets the same treatment now. As I said in a recent thread posted by @Hilde45, when one man's ox gets maliciously gored, it should be an offense to all. But that doesn't happen today. Most only feel offended when it is THEIR ox which suffers the gore. Like children on a playground, they often laugh when someone who they disagree with has their ox gored. As my old step daddy used to say, "right is right and wrong is wrong no matter WHO is doing it. Free speech comes only when THAT rule is applied. true freedom demands justice for all and NOT just those you like and agree with.
As @emailists has said, (my edits)
It’s fine for someone to post they tried a product and it didn’t work for them, but to dismiss entire product categories (when you have absolutely NO experience with said products is not a (valid) discussion
that belongs on an enthusiast forum.
Even so, I don’t like stifling someone’s opinion. They have a right to be wrong. But I get tired of the poor ethics & manners of those who call someone a liar without adequate cause. How would you go about proving they are a liar? You cannot. And in the real world you may be liable for slander or a good old a** whippin”
Not only is this extremely poor manners, but it goes against the forum rules also. It should not be allowed. As to the free speech issue, it DOES NOT apply to a business.
I’m glad that @emailists has posted this because it has been on my mind for some time. Many good & knowledgeable people have left because of these poor manners which are allowed by Agon. I remember when every post had to be approved by the moderator. I didn’t like it then nor would I like it now. But when you are in charge of a nursery, you must keep a close watch.. What a shame. Grown ups , some with advanced degrees, acting like impetuous children just to get their way, no matter who gets hurt.