Why not the piano as a reference for bass


I see a lot of commentary/reviews on a systems bass response that all seem to hinge on the 41 hz double bass and such range.  At 27.5 the A0 note on a piano seems a better point to judge.  Lots of piano in normal music vs say an organ note.  I know when I feel that deep chord played it is one of things I enjoy about listening the most!  Was listening to Wish you were here live and the piano was sublime.

So is it more of how much musical energy is perceived in the 40 hz range or what that makes this more of a reproduction benchmark?

I welcome your input!

New Joe Bonamassa out BTW!

guscreek

Well timstella, I would never presume to tell you or anyone else what you can hear.  I can tell you that in one iteration of my life I was in fact a professional musician.  Although I joke about it:  How many musicians are there in a 15 piece band?  Answer:  14 and a drummer.  I was the drummer.  Anyway I always had, and even though with age my hearing has diminished, still am blessed with pretty good hearing.  If you have the opportunity, I encourage to try to listen to, and to play if possible, one of the new Clavinova pianos in comparison to either a C7 or a C9.  You will be astonished.  To change the subject, have you heard a demonstration of the excellent modern stringed instruments compared to the best of the traditional ones such as Stradivarius or Guarneri?  To my ears the only real miss is the viola and even they are really excellent.  Given the astronomical prices of the traditional ones it is a real breakthrough that such wonderful instruments being made again.  And now back to pianos, sorry my mind wanders, Beethoven was limited by the piano technology available during his lifetime.  It is interesting to speculate that perhaps with advances in technology perhaps a future composer will expand the possibilities of piano music yet to come. 

It is evident that nothing beat the organ if we want to test the bass  depth. But there is other dimensions of bass we can test best with a piano.

Bass is a multidimensional band registers set related to timbre in acoustical normal conditions, for this a piano cannot replace an organ, nor the reverse and the tuba is as the viol an indispensable tool.

Music is rooted in timbre perception not in frequencies per se ( as a source of information communicated by the vibrating sound source).

I am not a musician nor an acoustician. It is only what i learned tuning my system/room ...

 

Synthesizer beats an organ for bass.

All organ bass has a slow attack compared to what can be done with a synthesizer.  And the right synthesizers can go infrasonic, and not just to modulate the audio oscillators, filters, and voltage controlled amplifiers.

What synthesizer can we hear, preferably on record, that can compare and exceed the rich harmonics of a pipe organ?  Why is fast attack preferrable to slow?  Does something that is below the threshold of human hearing add to the enjoyment of the musical experience in some subliminal way?  Just wondering.

Artificially generated sound hurt my soul...

Generally...

 Why ?

 

Because a Natural vibrating sound source, a pipe  organ for example or a piano string transmit an acoustical information about its physical state...

An electronical sound do not...

 Sound is not  a subjective experience only it is an objective takes on some aspect of the physical world (timbre) informing us....

 

 It is why i hate A.I. invasion so useful it could be on some specfic case...

I dont listen electronica....

 

Synthesizer beats an organ for bass.

All organ bass has a slow attack compared to what can be done with a synthesizer.  And the right synthesizers can go infrasonic, and not just to modulate the audio oscillators, filters, and voltage controlled amplifiers.

 

What synthesizer can we hear, preferably on record, that can compare and exceed the rich harmonics of a pipe organ?  Why is fast attack preferrable to slow?  Does something that is below the threshold of human hearing add to the enjoyment of the musical experience in some subliminal way?  Just wondering.