10 year PL user here. Do a search to find years of positive user reviews.
No brand is going to satisfy every set of ears or be a match for every set of speakers. The PL lineup is perfect for the first time tube user who doesn't want to fuss with traditional tube amp issues. Pretty much a plug and play box.
It's the "Made in China" factor that maybe turns off potential users and perhaps the "know it all" audio geniuses who downplay the brand.
The parts/build quality is on par with more expensive brands. Reliability and warranty support is good. Sound quality is going to be your own ears and the speakers you choose. No "fake information" on the website. |
kren0006-
You need to test drive one. Your ears will decide. The times I've heard that paring, it seemed fine to me. I've heard the Dialogue series and Prologue series thru them. Yes and no.
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So a lot of this text was done on China-free hardware?
Impressive! You also must go home to China-free households? double impressive.
You guys win the internet.
cincyhound, you should just do an in home demo and let your ears open your wallet, not anyone here. Prima Luna, Raven, whatever. Both companies offer home trials. Everyone here including myself is an audio genius, but disagrees with the other geniuses.
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Just as I thought.....
This is actually a thread in disguise to plug Prima Luna. Get the happy owners to come out and respond. Brilliant! I knew it was gonna go sideways reading the thread title.
Once again- the OP simply needs to home demo PL and any other brand and let his ears decide instead of all the "experts" here. The PL ISN'T "the best" nor is the Raven or ANY brand.
The non audio babble is pathetic and sad. |
cincyhound-
it was a goof. I’m just getting the point across that the PL could possibly be a great choice.
As mentioned I’ve been using PL gear for 10 years. With the right set of speakers, it will be just as "good" as any other brand. PL also appears to be a launching point for tube devotees.
Disregard the bashers and let your ears decide. There isn’t anyone here qualified to give you anything more than tech specs which doesn’t guarantee what your ears will like. |
"Both PrimaLuna and REL are manufactured and
MADE IN CHINA Yes, that REL. Including the reference lines. Get over it. I own both and couldn’t be happier with my gear."
Lot's of denial in here keeferdog.
Much more brands than most think. |
Off topic, but Prima Luna SQ related.
If there's anyone who has done a coupling cap mod to their Dialogue HP Integrated, please PM me. Would like some insight. With a few mod's, I understand the PL and similar imports can be put in another league? The foundation is there, so I'm thinking the right mods put it higher up the SQ ladder?
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Perhaps someone can identify the coupling caps from this pic. Scroll 1/4 down, under "dare to compare" https://www.primaluna-usa.com/dialogue-premium-hp-integratedThere has to be some components although "selected for performance" were chosen to meet price point requirements. Sorry for the hijack. Carry on, Prima Luna haters. |
jbhiller-
Thanks for the link. Looking at the price of those caps, I'd have to think hard before taking the plunge. I have no doubt it takes the PL into the next league.f |
"Speaking of Chinese gear... "
NO surprise there. Would anyone here be listening to their system regardless of brand, WITHOUT a Chinese connection? Doubtful
Made in USA =assembled with stuff we had to buy offshore, because it's cheaper. |
"there is something significant missing from my PrimaLuna Evo 300 integrated, which replaced my Cary amp and preamp."
I would hope ANY decent amp/preamp combo is "better" than a value integrated unit. It doesn't seem to be a reasonable expectation the PL integrated should outshine a Cary amp/preamp setup.
"I would not put any more money in trying to get the PL to fit your sound desire. Just unload it."
Agreed. Any piece of equipment is going to have a fundamental "sound" to determine if it's a keeper. I have interest of possibly tweaking my PL from a curiosity/hobbyist perspective.
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Jbhiller-
Yes, I have the HP Integrated. I will be looking forward to reading your experience on installing them and results. Good luck! That mod will add up quickly replacing all the caps! |
