A test, for anyone who is interested. Take a 1 1/2 inch piece of painters tape ( I use the blue Scotch 3M 1 inch width size roll ), cut this piece the long way, to get yourself a 1/2 inch wide strip, and apply it on the glass of the fuse, leaving a bit of the glass showing on each end of the fuse, and put the fuse back. Of course, make sure the equipment is off, when you are doing this, clean the ends of the fuse of fingerprints, reinsert the fuse, and listen. Keep in mind, the equipment needs to warm up ( restabilize ). Do 1 fuse at a time. Can do this on any fuse. Let me know what you hear ? And yes, I am a tweaker. |
Maybe, just maybe, keep the fuse in the same direction as before removing it. |
There is a relatively new product called Anti Vibration Magic, which works. The painters tape mimics the same effect. A buddy of mine uses black electrical tape ( which comes in many colors ). AVM is quite expensive ( imo ), and is used by a few high end audio manufacturers, and is very popular in the diy community. A long, long time ago, I was one of the 1st ( that I knew of ) that used mortite, under the platters of direct drive tts. At that time, I had a friend who was an engineer with Nakamichi, who told me about a simple and easy tweak, that I have been doing for years ( similar to AVM ). This tweak was to use a non glue, waterproof, silicon sealant, available at your Lowes or HD ( even Walmart ), and with a tooth pick ( or something like it ), apply to areas within a component. Wiring, capacitors, circuit boards and the chassis. Caveat : MUST LET IT DRY. It is all removable, and, can be quite messy. But, incredible improvement. This can be for the same purpose as adding a piece Dynamat ( or similar product ) to the underside of a component lid, to dampen vibrations. Anyone who feels I am looney ( kosst ), I do not care. Never knock it until you try it. MrD
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One last thing. There are many parts within a component that are temperature sensitive, in other words, get hot ( transistors, resistors, transformers, tubes ), that I encourage caution. I do not apply on these, but if given room and with proper heat dissipation, certainly around them. For tubes, I recommend dampers, and not caulk ( or AVM ). |
If anyone wants to try it, I use Dynaflex 230, window and door sealant, by DAP. It is available in a squeeze tube, but I purchase it in the 10.1 ounce tubes. If you purchase it in these larger tubes, you need a caulk gun, and, need to puncture a seal at the bottom of the tip ( after cutting off the tip itself ). The color does not matter, but I use clear. It comes out white, but becomes clear after it dries. I finished up a Monster Cable power thingy, and, unbelievable ( not my first conditioner ). Another thing. i DO NOT DO THIS ON ANY EQUIPMENT UNDER A MANUFACTURES WARRANY, as it would likely void it. I only dabble in the used market anyway, and, I do it to products I intend to keep. |
Last thing. Certain parts within a component chassis are very heat sensitive, and require dissipation of that heat ( transistors, resistors, transformers, and some others ). Proceed with caution. I leave these components alone, but will apply around them if given the room for proper heat dissipation. Tubes, I recommend dampers, nothing more. |
George and Dave, I am sure you two are correct, as this is where these posts should be. |
George and Dave. Thanks. I will try to copy and paste. |
George and Dave. Thanks, I will try to copy and paste. Always, MrD |
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Listen, how many hobbies involve "snake oil " ?. Certainly one of them is high end audio. Fuses, cables and cable lifters, green pens, isolation products, etc. Try them yourself. If you hear a difference, great. If you do not, that is fine also. But, the people who have not tried " it ", saying that scientifically it does not make sense, should be ignored ( they know who they are ). It seems they live for this. In fact on another thread, one of these individuals here, mentions, that, depending on how he "flicks " the power switch on his dyi power amp, he often blows fuses. Go figure. |
If anyone would like to know who, I will be happy to post it. But, as far as I am concerned, this individual has no credibility with me, on pretty much, any subject he "trolls ". |
On a speaker thread, someone recently spent $1300. on a pair of speaker isolation products, claiming it took his system to an extremely higher level of musical satisfaction. I can believe it. It is still amazing to me, that people like kosst ( a troll imo ), requires scientific facts to back anything up. A long time ago, Julian Hirsch, compared, by electrical measurements, an inexpensive japanese receiver to a relatively expensive amplifier, at that time, showing how close the two products were. I do not recall if he " listened " to these two products, but I do believe he made the comment, that if they measure the same, they must sound the same. Some people need to wake up, give things a try ( a little fuse test ), and trust their ears. If they are NOT WILLING TO TRY AND LISTEN, how can they make a comment at all ? |
@kosst....What we think we hear ? Did you really make that statement ? Stop embarrassing yourself. Go back to your measurements. Your Focals did not wind up in your listening room entirely with the use of measurements, as you must have listened to them, with a set of ears, I assume. But, you know what they say, when you assume ? Then again, you needed your mom's approval. So, I guess that says, all that needs to be said. |
@kosst, when you built your diy amplifier, did you try different " isolation feet ", such as brass or metal cones, or the rubber type, because, there is a huge difference in the sound of an amp heard through the speakers. I am not sure these differences are measurable, but certainly audible. One would have to try it though. Steve McCormack, when he started the Mod Squad, shared with listeners, that there was an audible difference in these isolation things. It was up to " us " listeners to hear it for ourselves. Now, there are so many of these devices, of all designs and materials, at all price levels. Many specific to equipment, speakers and so on. I do not claim these can be scientifically be measured, but I do claim they are audible. Again, one would have to try them. This is my biggest beef with you, that you are so closed minded as not to try, and listen. With so many money back guarantees offered, you have very little to lose, other than some time. You do not rely on your ears. Again, I feel you are at a loss. I will continue pursuing these tweaks ( snake oil to you ), because, I enjoy the experimentation, and make up my own mind, by listening. I do not care if it is measurable through equipment, as, I am not an engineer, but I was a musician ( vocalist actually ), and have trained my ears to many things. I want to point out, one does not need to be a musician to hear much of this. Two pre amps ( amps, cd players, d/a converters, etc.) can measure quite closely, but sound quite different. This is the world of high end audio. |
The fact that kosst is unable and unwilling to " try " a few of these simple tests, using his ears, says to me, that he will never really enjoy his music system, because, he is leaving so much on the table. He is disturbed, as he cannot let this go, thinking he will change any of us. I suggested a simple fuse tweak, that all of my musically inclined family and friends can hear ( on their systems as well as mine ), but he carried on about the fuse getting stuck in the holder. I can go on, but the fact that he needs proof, it is in the listening, and he is unwilling to try. He probably could not hear these differences anyway, and he must be afraid of that outcome. Come on kosst, let's have some more, because, you cannot let this go, and I am having fun, even though you are annoying. |
@willgolf, although you were the OP on this thread, you did open a can of worms. I noticed it has been over 2 months since you contributed to your own thread. However, I am with you, and I am, at this point, out. I know, what I know, because I try, I listen, and I evaluate, for a change, whether positive, negative or none. Thank you all, MrD. |
I completely agree with you, that all that stuff makes a difference. Am I to assume, that all of this, can be measured with equipment, because the ears can pick up on it as well. |
@geoffkait . kosst does not understand how the ear is a measurement device in and of itself. My thoughts are that kosst is listening to his system, and not the music. I know some people, like him, but most I know ( not all ), have been open to listen. But even those folks who do not bother with " my little experiments ", ever doubt what I hear, as many of them have heard my system, and, that says enough. |
@geoffkait , why are you still falling for the bait. You and I know better, as well as many more of us do. Let kosst, wolf, and anyone else on that side of the fence, be. |
