Why do you think Bi-Wiring improves the sound ?


I now know of 3 people that have converted their speakers to be bi-wired but are not bi-amping .

What is your experience or opinion on why bi-wiring without bi-amping might or does sound better ?

I am concidering converting my speakers but I do not want to be fooled by the addition of increased AWG .
vair68robert
I only bi-wire when I'm using speakers that have that capability. I will say that if the straps are gold plated brass, you should replace them with some good wire or the Cardas copper straps.
"So Alan Shaw says it doesn’t matter and Richard Vandersteen says it absolutely matters. Two very respected speaker designers with completely different views of the same subject. Do you just cherry pick one because it supports what you believe or fits your experience? What a logical fallacy. I would not add a set of binding posts to a set of speakers just to try it out. If there are already two sets of binding posts, give it a try for yourself and make your own decision."


There are several problems with your post. First, assuming that you were responding to my post, I didn’t cherry-pick anything. I simply reproduced some posts of Shaw’s that explain his position.

Secondly, can Vandersteen actually demonstrate HOW it matters? Shaw explains why, in his view, it doesn’t, and is typically rigorous in his scientific approach to such matters. That doesn’t mean that he cannot be mistaken about something, but it does mean that he can explain, with a scientific foundation, why he holds a particular position.

With a quick search, I found anecdotal claims by Vandersteen that bi-wiring sounds better on his speakers, and this:

Additional experiments with a Hall Effect probe revealed that high-current bass frequencies created a measurable field around the wires that expanded and collapsed with the signal. We believe that this dynamic field modulates the smaller signals, especially the very low level treble frequencies. With the high-current signal (Bass) separated from the low-current signal (Treble) this small signal modulation was eliminated as long as the cables were separated by at least an inch or two. (To keep the treble cable out of the field surrounding the bass cable.)

Note that he says "We believe...". Not exactly hard science, though perhaps he is on to something.

I found a related article (on "qacoustics" UK) with some experiments appearing to support the ides that bi-wiring confers benefits. Don, a regular and knowledgable contributor to the audiosciencereview.com site had this to say in response:

Because a single wire carries woofer and tweeter current; bi-wiring means the woofer wire carries only woofer current, tweeter wire tweeter current, though voltage is the same for both. A plot of voltage would show the same voltage applied to woofer and tweeter (less changes due to wire loss, insignificant in practice).

Single wire:
Amp -> single cable -> woofer + tweeter = single cable carries all current

Bi-wire:
Amp -> woofer cable -> woofer = woofer cable carries only woofer current; crossover reduces tweeter current to woofer

Amp -> tweeter cable -> tweeter = tweeter cable carries only tweeter current; crossover reduces woofer current to tweeter

The crossover makes the woofer look like a higher impedance to the tweeter cable so tweeter current is reduced in the woofer wire, and likewise the tweeter crossover makes a higher impedance to the woofer cable for tweeter current, so there is less interaction in the wire. The net energy the amp delivers, and that the woofer and tweeter each receive, is the same whether you use a single wire or bi-wire. The wire itself contributes negligibly to distortion and so the bi-wire argument is a red herring (is a false argument). The amplifier and speakers dominate (by orders of magnitude) the distortion.

HTH - Don

And another commenter on a different site:

QAcoustics article cited above shows just how SUBTLE the differences can be between Bi-Wire and Single Wire connected Speakers. Change in IMD Levels are only 1-3 dB, with the IMD voltages being 70 dB below the Fundamental Signal Levels...which is 1 part in 10^7 or 0.00001 %.....probably impossible for even Golden Ears to detect.

If someone has a scientific explanation for why bi-wiring may be superior in practice, please do provide it.


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Wrt Vandersteen, anyone who thinks it is a breakthrough that a magnetic field exists around current carrying wires and that they collapse and expand with the signal .... Hasn't taken a high school physics course.  It is laughable someone would put that in writing.


Absent magnetic materials surrounding the cable (don't use that cable collar :-)) that field is going to be quite linear hence no distortion products AND as the two wires run parallel and opposite direction the field strength is very small wrt the signal size. Two strikes, Vandersteen is out.
The terminals were fitted for one reason and one reason only: to give the user choice. Have I ever used them at exhibitions? No. Have I ever used them for critical listening? No. Have I ever used them during the design of the speaker? No. When we were offering the biwire terminals, right at the end of the design process (which has all been with single wire) I took a saw to the prototype PCB, cut in in half to isolate the bass and tweeter sections and then made a pretty PCB layout based on that. Did I listen to the biwired crossover before authorising production? No. Do I believe that even 0.00000001% of enhanced performance can be gained? No. 
This sure sounds like hard science. Lots and lots of "I believe" in there. He couldn't even be bothered to listen to it. It is no more authoritative than Vandersteen's anecdotal evidence. Is there any evidence that Richard Vandersteen does not use science in his designs? I would say that quite the opposite is true. In fact, he would say that designers that choose to not pay attention to phase in their speakers are absolutely wrong. He does back that with measurements. I am not saying either is right or wrong. I am just pointing out that many people here love to pick out the expert that they want to believe. You know, appeal to authority.