The usual reason audiophiles dismiss more expensive cables in a-b comparisons is because to be blunt, their systems aren't capable of clearly revealing the differences.
why do people feel the need to buy expensive cable
I have tried expensive cables and one's moderately priced. I would say there were some differences but I can't actually say the expensive cables were better. IMHO I believe a lot of people buy expensive cables because they don't actual trust their ears and are afraid of making a mistake. They figure the expensive cables are better for the fact they cost more. If you have a difference of opinion or share the same thoughts, I would like to hear about it.
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10-27-15: TonykayI hope you get the answer you want so you can live on comfortably in delusion. Something about bliss? |
I agree Dave. In the Jorma range, the Unity cables to me represent the sweet spot in their range, though I would go for the Origo pc's as they are quite a bit better than the Unity model. |
10-27-15: TonykayTonkay, fyi my Dealer may carry TL, but I couldn't give a rats behind about those cables. I use Jorma Prime and Statement cables in my system & will never sell them.. Btw, have you heard the mystery about the Company, the shill and the imposter? The Company made big, fat cables which have space age technology & posted lots of technical info on their site. The shill thought he could help sell those space age cables and hit upon the idea of offloading lots of 'b stock' cables direct. The imposter pushed a John Deere mower by day, but by night put on his TL cape and became 'Captain Cobalt'! Now who did it? The Director in the library with the candlestick? The shill with the laptop in the cybercafe, or the handyman with the snake in the trailer park? |
I said I was going to take no further part in this thread, but spurious claims by the usual suspects forced my hand. I have the following observations on this subject; I avoid cable manufacturers who make outlandish claims about heretofore unknown space age technology, who then proceed to publish copious amounts of technical and semi-technical information on their website for sponsored shills and hangers on to then endlessly copy and paste on this site. Secondly, it occurs to me if you were genuinely content with the quality and sound of your cables you would not need to repeatedly post about the qualities and performance of your cables, unless you a/ felt the need to justify their high cost by continuously brow-beating other members, b/ were not actually content with how they sound & were simply trying to mask buyer's remorse by convincing others how good they are, c/ were jealous of other members who own cables you knew sound better & probably cost less than your cables, or /d were actively shilling for a manufacturer (whether directly employed by the manufacturer or doing so of your own accord in the hope of special deals or on their products or public recognition in return). I'm guilty as charged for rabitting on endlessly about my Magico S5's, and I worked out why. They are very good speakers, that's true. But I wasn't content with where I was impatient to move up the Magico line to the S7's. The problem was I was ruined back in 1991 when I got to hear a pair of Infinity IRS-V's in a treated listening room which simply blew me away. The IRS-V's have been my reference ever since, and the benchmark by which I judge all other loudspeakers. So I can own up on that, but I have no such anxiety about my Jorma Prime and Statement cables. They are keepers and I will never sell them. |
11-02-15: RunninNo, I tell it how it really is. I give honest advice whether it's fashionable or not. And I call out shills and hypocrites. And for that, I have been banned on several forums, attacked and accused by people like you of being a troll & isolated. But there is a silent minority of people who respect me for not being a puppet, sheep or phonie who are too scared to publically show any support. They're the ones I have time for. |
Lol Calvin, yes no question it is possible to put together a musical sounding system (incl: wire) on a relatively modest budget if you do your homework & choose your gear wisely. Going 2nd hand or getting a good deal through an Audio dealer obviously helps as well. I should clarify, my above comments were only directed at two or three shills/rear end tow ropes who repeatedly subject forum members to obvious shilling. I don't need to name names as it's pretty obvious who they are. I'm sorry if any other members took though my comments were directed at them. And yes, give the fact i'd rather be single and buy more audio gear suggests i'm a bit nuts! |
@Taters, Audio shows are always sausage fests. It's fair to say there would be a higher than average percentage of single guys <40y.o attending, but I think the older crowd mostly have a happy spouse at home busy catching up with friends or a good book. @Onhwy61, It sure can. A wise person once told me "you'll get there one day". But for the time being atleast, after work this nerdy hobby is the main game. |
Czarivey, I wouldn't say all high end cables are way over-priced, though yes there are many companies which make huge profits. I'll avoid naming names as that has ended up in more than one major dust up before. Suffice to say, Jorma Design imho is one of the better value high end cable manufacturers, especially when compared to Nordost and Captain Cobalt's favourite wire, Tara Labs. ps: Don't ever listen to Jorma Statement sc's...you might need a diaper because of how good they sound ;) |
I'm sorry, but that is ridiculous. Keith how can you possibly expect to hear what $24k worth of speaker cables can do with your 2nd hand JBL L7 speakers?? The last pair on US Audio Mart sold for $655.00 in good condition. Any serious audiophile would rather pair $655 cables with $24k speakers. The problem with these debates is you get doofuses giving opinions and leading inexperienced members astray. |