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Why do I see more Vandersteen model 3s vs model 2s for sale?

Just wondering about something I've noticed on the audiogon.com website over the past few months. It seems when Vandersteen speakers pop-up for sale a good percentage of them are the model 3's. Based off what I know about Vandersteen it seems like there should be a lot more Model 2's for sale based off of overall units sold. Anyone else notice this? What could be the reason?
I currently have the Model 2c's (SNs around 27K, I believe) and they are a great speaker. When I upgrade I either want the latest version of the model 2 (2ce sig II's) used, or used Model 3a sigs (also the latest version). I think the pricing would be somewhere in the ballpark of 1.8k for the 2ce sig IIs vs around 2.4k for the 3a sigs.
Would I be better or getting the model 2's or springing an extra $700 on the model 3's?
Just wanted to get some input on this. 3A sigs seem like the logical choice, but seeing so many for sale compared to the model 2's make me hesitant. Thanks for any insight.
bstatmeister

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gdnrbob
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If I were to do it again. I would just buy a pair of used Quatro's, but being less than affluent, I would suggest buying a pair of used 2wq subs for your 2c's. That would give you 80% of a 3a sig. (Also, the 3a sig Sound Anchors stick out and make positioning difficult in cramped areas).
When money comes available, you can do what I did, buy a pair of Treo's and keep the 2wq's. That way you will get 90% of a Quatro. If you can find a pair of Treo CT-even better.
Vandersteen is coming out with a new sub system, so prices of the 2wq's will probably be coming down. In any case, the 2wq's are no slouch and integrate seamlessly.
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gdnrbob
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I will defer to Johnny (audioconnection), as he knows these speakers inside out. True, the 3a sigs will need more power than the 2's, but if powered properly, will give you more bass than the 2's.
I had the 3a sigs with a pair of 2w subs, and it was very good. I now have the Treo's with 2wq subs and have no intention of changing anything for quite a while.
@bstat, Your upgrade path seems sound (pun intended). Adding the subs should flesh out the music, and like I said, they can be used with the Treo's to great effect should you wish to upgrade beyond the 2ce sigs.
@mr_m ,
TMR pics always look washed out, to me. I would contact them to see if they really are bleached out.
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gdnrbob
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@mr_m ,
If you are in the NY/NJ area, perhaps we can meet at Johnny's place this summer. I am getting a small group together when things slow down for me.
@czarivey , 
Though I wouldn't characterize the 5a's as slow, they are massive and I like to my speakers look nice-visually-in a room, so I would have to agree.
FWIW, when I was streaming music a month ago, I didn't realize that I had the volume up on the system downstairs( I am streaming to Bluesound Nodes in different parts of the house).
Those Treo's can certainly put out a significant volume of music. When I walked downstairs and heard them, I was set aback. It sounded like live music.
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gdnrbob
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@bstat, 
I think Mr. V. and dealers like John Rutan understand that not all of us can afford to buy new.
When I had some questions and called Vandersteen, Mr. V. called back the next day to offer guidance. He even called back the following day to see if I had rectified the problem- All this, knowing I had bought my speakers used.
And, Johnny has provided so much good info, as well, without any sales pitch.
A very reputable company with equally reputable distributors.
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