I can understand that to some degree. You might try one of these:
Stenz/Koln on Oehms
Vanska/Minnesota on BIS
Fischer/BFO on Channel
Why do all Mahler recordings seem too bright?
Yes - I may be exaggerating but I haven’t yet found any recordings of his symphonies that properly balance the extra treble energy that are often part of the dynamic swings. Part of the problem may be that I’m not sure I yet actually “like” Mahler’s music though there are moments that are exquisite. But, I can’t get through a whole piece because the recordings hurt my ears.
As a side note - I have been on both sides of a microphone - having been a musician in the past and also having recorded/mixed a number of orchestral concerts at a performing arts center. Pre-pandemic I would go to orchestral concerts regularly. So - I do have at least some reference.
I have some recordings (they were given to me) that are positively unlistenable (a DG recording of his 5th may be singularly the worst recording I’ve heard).
I thought the hi res versions of San Francisco by MTT might be the ticket. While better, they still seem too bright and harsh to me.
Perhaps it’s my system that’s too bright, or perhaps something else is going on but I’ve plenty of other classical music that sounds better. We’ll recorded jazz and acoustic, too.
Of course I can find poor recordings in any genre, but I’d welcome recommendations from my fellow forumites of some Mahler recordings that I might try. I’d love to be able to listen to the closing moments of the 2nd at reasonable volume - without cringing.
I don't necessarily regard them as "better." I just recommended them in the hope that they might seem "better" for you. |
There are (at least) two issues here. First, you are right that treble energy dissipates in the concert hall and, consequently, a good recording must capture that balance and the associated ambiance in order to have any expectation of reproducing the sound realistically in the home. Very few today (for many reasons) are created the way you describe and that’s a good thing. Second, too many home systems are configured to create a flat response at the listening position without dealing with room acoustics and speaker-room interaction and that can result in a brighter sound than is desirable.
Not necessarily. I listen mostly to high-resolution files and, whenever possible, in multichannel, as well. That includes the ones I have already mentioned along with a goodly number of direct live mic feeds. In some cases, I can compare the live feed with the commercial release. High-frequency imbalance is rare. |
Have you heard the Ivan Fischer/BFO Bruckner 7 on Channel Classics? |
Well, try the second movement to hear what I think of as a perfect balance in the horns in the multichannel version. (It's even better in a different, unreleased rendering that I have the privilege to possess!) |
I was not addressing brightness in the Fischer recordings of Mahler but giving this as an example of what I think is a well-balanced Bruckner recording.
Why do you corelate the number of instruments with the the number of microphones? |
Yeah, many used to do that. Less common now and, strangely, even less (relatively speaking) with multichannel recordings. The ones that sound best in 5 channels used 5 mics, perhaps with a spot 1-2. |