Who says studio monitors are "cold and analytical"?

Most studio monitors are rubbish for enjoyment. Both audiophiles and studio Pros agree on that at least

@kenjit Uh, no.  No they absolutely do not and I’ve no idea where you’d even get any such data to support this except in your own mind.  I had the pleasure of meeting/speaking at length with one of ATC’s top engineers and nowhere in that conversation did he say their speakers were rubbish for enjoyment, and the fact that their speakers are revered globally as both studio and home monitors would greatly refute your misguided contention.

There are some speakers such as B&W nautilus that are marketed as both audiophile and studio speakers hence they are used by both sides of the market.

But, if as you maintain studio monitors are designed to be flat and don’t sound good then B&W speakers must be bad studio monitors.  Same with ATC, PMC, etc.  Can’t have your argument both ways.

As usual, once kenjit’s “theories” are examined at all they devolve into unsupported circular logic that, much like toilet water, circles the bowl and eventually just ends up in the sewer where it belongs.  But, wait to hear him double down on his garbage with further unsupported circular logic.  Thus why kenjit is so beloved here.  Ugh. 

Some speaker companies like ATC or PMC dont fit the mould because they have a foot in both camps. One in the audiophile market and the other in the Pro audio market. So THEY are the ones having it both ways not me.

@kenjit But here’s where more of ur circular reasoning comes in. If you look at a comparable model in ATC’s home or pro market, the only difference is the cabinet. They don’t “tune” their speakers for either market any differently and have achieved success on both sides. Then you present some ASR measurements that are somehow are meant to besmirch ATC. When you have to invoke ASR to make your lame point and infer that somehow that overrides the exceptional commercial success ATC has had on both sides, you’ve lost dude. The market has spoken and you’re just flat-out wrong. Speakers can be tuned the same for both professional and home use and be equally successful. Period. That some “dude” you found didn’t like how the SCM2000 ASL sounds (that speaker doesn’t even exist BTW) means nothing because he’s clearly in the vast minority. I can find someone who actually agrees with you. Don’t mean that’s reality. Fact is, you have no data to back up your contention that studio speakers sound like crap, then you throw out a buncha BS to try to rescue your initially flawed and way too broad statement. Face it dude, once again you’ve been outed and most people here won’t buy the extreme statements you try to sell here just in the name of extremism and outlandish statements. Chalk up another failure on your belt.

According to discussions Ive read, Pro audio users do not want their speakers to sound good. If they sound good they are regarded as colored...They want their speakers to be accurate.  As a result of this market need, the studio monitor industry was created in order to satisfy these needs. So these studio monitors are not designed by audiophiles or music lovers. They are done by engineers who have no understanding of music. They rely on measurements to guide their design along with user feedback, But since the studio pros themselves are not audiophiles, it is a case of the blind leading the blind.

The first key statement in this, and is endemic of all of @kenjit posts is the part of “According to discussions I’ve read…”.  That’s pretty much all ya need to know.  Why?  Because according to kenjit all speakers are trash and are fatally flawed.  Note, he NEVER lists components in his own system.  Why?  Because that would pin him down and hold him accountable for his own ridiculous statements.  As for the rest of this absurd statement I’m not even gonna waste my time.  He’s trying to infer speakers are only constructed by engineers OR audiophiles, and I think that’s silly because all speaker designers are ,of necessity, both.  If u guys wanna continue to read more of kenjit’s backfilling and circular reasoning go ahead but I’m done.  Anything else he says from here you can reference my earlier retorts and see why they’re complete BS, but I refuse to waste anymore of my time on this.  Someone else can retort and state kenjit’s obvious contradictions.  Good luck with that, and Peace Out and Happy Hollidays to all.  Yes, even kenjit. 

ATC is another speaker that was born out of the need for speakers to go loud in a studio environment. Furthermore, they know nothing about speaker design since they started off as a driver manufacturer…ATC is a marketing company…There is no substitute for testing a speaker than using a human being with refined hearing such as myself. If I was in charge, 99% of these speakers probably would not pass my intense standards. No speaker company will employ someone like me because none of their speakers would ever be good enough.

Classic Kenjit — a legend in his own mind. ATC knows nothing about speaker design? Please. Notice, BTW, he never divulges what speakers he uses himself IF he has any speakers at all. What a complete and utter farce.  I do agree though that no speaker company would employ someone like you. 

@mirolab VERY interesting post.  I immediately looked up your speakers and found this review where the reviewer chose your speakers over some ATC SCM20s.  Go figure.  Thanks for the great info!

https://gearspace.com/board/reviews/1163637-adam-audio-s3h.html

An audiophile speaker is designed for pleasure only. If mix engineers wanted to use audiophile speakers they would. But they dont want a good sounding speaker they want a bad sounding one. Hence the emergence of the studio monitor market.

I can’t even begin to address this insanity, so I won’t.  Peace out.