"I had been using 35 feet long Blue Jeans/Belden interconnects between my preamp and the power amp..."
35 feet? That is very long for an interconnect. How come you had to leave components that far?
Who says cables don't make a difference?
thyname, "Back then when he was posting under @atdavid fake account." Why exactly are you calling someone’s account fake? Did she/he impersonate you? "...he is probably busy fighting his holy war somewhere else, in other Audio forums and Facebook. I am 100% sure." Do you also walk on water? Aside from that, is he probably (<100%) fighting or he is certainly (100%) fighting? |
If your interconnects get hot, you have a bigger problem than you thought.
Was I misguided thinking that things may get hot because of movement and friction and not the other way around (like in the post I am quoting)? |
mahgister, "Which customer will not ask for his money back for a cable he dont like, after 200 hours of listening , if he was paid many hundred dollars, even thousand dollars ?" Not exactly cables (I do not put much value on them), but I have not returned some things I did not like, regardless of cost. It would not have been worth my time, effort, energy, whatever, at that time. |
mahgister, I am not sure why he does it, but delaying the possibility of return does make it less convenient and less likely to happen. Any manufacturer has to find something to make her/his products stand out from the crowd. Cable burn-in may be one of those things. It may be a trouble to do it, but it is a part of the business. It takes a lots of people at Coca-Cola to arrange for billboards, TV ads, etc. to make you feel connected to those smiling people drinking their Coca-Cola. It is a trouble, but they have been doing it for decades with one goal. To sell Coca-Cola. It does help if manufacturer believes in what she/he sells so she/he may be more honestly enthusiastic about the product. If it were not about burn-in, what else would we be talking when mentioning Morrow cables? You see, even in these few posts, the hype and talk is about the burn-in. The story. The selling point. |
mahgister, I do not know anything about value of those cables, but do propose that one of the reasons for that approach is simply business. Mr. Morrow is in the business of earning money from cable sales. If not, he would have been giving them for free. In this very competitive cable market, just like any other manufacturer, he needs to distance his products from others'. Emphasis on cable burn-in may be that approach. Not having money-back return policy would make many potential customers skip his offerings so it would not be a good idea. Understandingly, he would be better off with less returns. Offering return policy, but making sure that it is discouraged under the explanation "you need time to settle" or whatever else, could yield multiple benefits. "Story" (burn-in) with the cable, return policy (not to alienate potential customers), and a few hurdles to skip over while trying to exercise one's right to return, and you may get good sales with less returns. It is not an unusual business/marketing approach even without starting to talk about any real/perceived functionality. In fact, why would he do it any other way? |
"Now suppose you are Mr. Morrow himself , why in the hell ! would you give to yourself this trouble and to yours customers too, advising them to burn the cables they sold to you or burning them for them... Why ?"There may be a few reasons and one may be marketing. You have 60 days to return cables, but you are not allowed to return them before day #30. It makes it less likely that you will return it at all even for sheer inconvenience, missing deadlines, forgetfulness, and whatever else. Once you decide to skip though those hoops and return some of the cables there is a 10% restocking fee. That may set you back $700 for speaker cables (up to 3 meter length). |
"...anti cable propaganda is associated with a group of people...'Not just any group. It is a Special Interest Group. https://www.bluetooth.com/about-us/vision/ |
thyname, "This sophist’s blindtest experiments are meant to test the listener, not the gear." With careful design, you could aim much better. With all this back-and-forth about blind testing, not much was said in terms of methods. Remember the last time you were designing a study? What did you spend most energy on and what did reviewers scrutinize probably the most? Exactly. Not the results. |
speedbump6, "He could and would never settle for a true blind test don’t by independent researchers who could care less about what the results show. No matter how it was done, even if he initially agreed the process was sound, he would find the faults in the methods if the results didn’t turn out as he wished. He’s mad that point abundantly clear." Not to take sides, but it seems that you are very familiar with roberttdid's inner workings. Could it be that you are slightly biased and incorrect in your strong affirmative statements? No matter how provoked you may feel, do not fall into a trap of disregarding your own statement... "I’m not arrogant enough to to believe that I know everything..." |
mitch2, "You’re close. It’s by ESP."Surprisingly, but geoffkait is not making this one up. Many SONY Discmen, later also branded as CD Walkmen and including geoffkait's, have ESP. Like, for example, this one... https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/sony_discman_esp_sports_d_421sp.html |