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Who is ditching their shiny disc spinners?

I want to upgrade my digital side … (currently Bluesound Vault 2i feeding the DAC of Oppo 105) … plan to spend around $2k … since I’ve ripped all my CDs to the Vault, thinking of spending it all on a DAC, and retire/sell the Oppo while it still has some value. I do have a few older CDPs I could retain as backup, but not sure why I would ever need.

Alternatively, was considering a better combined CDP/DAC like a newer Marantz or Yamaha … upgrades DAC performance some, and a reliable spinner for quite a few more years … but I have very few SACDs, so feeling like this would be the tail wagging the dog.

In what direction have you been migrating?
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georgehifi
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I was referring instead to the overall topic of the thread, which seems to boil down to an endless (and apparently irresolvable) dispute re: stream-ing vs. CDs.
"Who is ditching their shiny disc spinners?" "obviously for another digital source" 

 "And which sounds better" if you ditch the cd, don’t be in any haste yet to do it.

And I’m stating streaming/downloading to a hd, "can" be as good as playing an uncompressed early cd.
If the streaming /download company will give that same early non-compressed cd issue, and not a later compressed re-issue, which is normally the case.
Hence the need for provenance of what version your purchasing from those companies.

Cheers George
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Arguing is not likely to change many minds.

Frankly, the value of such threads eludes me.

The value is, to give the provenance of what they stream/download to you, so you can say yes I'll pay (to uncompressed) or no won't pay (to compressed) issues of the same album.
https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list/year?artist=Stevie+Nicks&album=Bella+Donna
They'll get me to join if they did that for starters. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ&ab_channel=MattMayfieldMusic

Cheers George

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p05129
Its been proven over a dozen years ago that reading music from a HD sounds better than from a CD player. I got rid of all my cd/sacd players almost 15 years ago.

Yes no ones arguing that, but if what you put on the HD comes from streaming or downloading, it’s usually the "later compress re-issue" that you get, and therefore will sound shite compared to earlier CD of the same piece that aren’t compressed.

Just look at the difference just between these two, earlier CD issue v later re-issue that are usually the the download/streamed ones.

https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list/year?artist=Traveling+Wilburys&album=Traveling+Wilburys

https://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list/year?artist=Bruce+Springsteen&album=Born+To+Run

Cheers George


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Oh man, physical music collections are so quaint.


And they sound better than that compressed stuff that’s streamed or downloaded, but hey your right, it is good for ipods/earphones/car/ and background dinner music
(remember "dynamics" if you have no quite notes you can’t have any loud notes to startle you)

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/cd-quality-versus-streaming-quality/post?postid=2216248#22162...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ&ab_channel=MattMayfieldMusic

Cheers George


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Retired and happy to stick with the humble CD they sound Ok to me in my Naim CD555DR.



Nothing wrong with that Naim, about as good as you’ll get for a one box player, best Multibit R2R dac chip, with last best HDCD chip and the transport’s no slouch either, but the laser will be a problem come replacement time.

R2R Dac-PCM1704 –

HDCD-PMD200

Laser- Philips CD-Pro 2M


Cheers George



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Cambridge Audio CXC cd transport only, is good for the money new or used Mki or Mkii same thing
Cheers George
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Who is ditching their shiny disc spinners?


Never, for what??

I would never replace them for streamed/downloaded compressed re-issued stuffed, good for car/ipod/background music.

Just look at these three compression comparisons of the same album
https://forum.audiogon.com/posts/2216248

Now see if you can ditch your cd's and players

Cheers George
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