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"Which speakers actually get it right accomplishing both goals?"
I'm guessing that most of our experiences have been that all of the discussion regarding speakers and rooms is 'theoretical'...UNTIL...we get the speaker being considered in our own specific rooms playing with our equipment and our music. When we begin tweaking the speaker location/position, we begin to understand...that it is very difficult to identify the 'one size fits most' loudspeaker....especially when you add the placement challenges of many rear firing loudspeakers.
There are plenty of people that own all of the speakers listed above and love them. And there are plenty of people that have tried them and moved on.
Let me just pick one 'usually agreed upon' example. Magnepans in the right room, with the right amplifier, the right positioning and the right type of music can sound shockingly real (live music)...but move them a little bit, change the amplifier or change the type of music and they seem to lose that magical quality.
So, where does that leave us. I suspect that there are two solutions which from a practical standpoint, people often end up with:
First: pick the loudspeaker that has the most positives and fewest negatives in your room with your equipment and music
Second: have two systems in two rooms that have different strengths and play the one that suits your mood at any given time
"Which speakers actually get it right accomplishing both goals?"
I'm guessing that most of our experiences have been that all of the discussion regarding speakers and rooms is 'theoretical'...UNTIL...we get the speaker being considered in our own specific rooms playing with our equipment and our music. When we begin tweaking the speaker location/position, we begin to understand...that it is very difficult to identify the 'one size fits most' loudspeaker....especially when you add the placement challenges of many rear firing loudspeakers.
There are plenty of people that own all of the speakers listed above and love them. And there are plenty of people that have tried them and moved on.
Let me just pick one 'usually agreed upon' example. Magnepans in the right room, with the right amplifier, the right positioning and the right type of music can sound shockingly real (live music)...but move them a little bit, change the amplifier or change the type of music and they seem to lose that magical quality.
So, where does that leave us. I suspect that there are two solutions which from a practical standpoint, people often end up with:
First: pick the loudspeaker that has the most positives and fewest negatives in your room with your equipment and music
Second: have two systems in two rooms that have different strengths and play the one that suits your mood at any given time