Which came first, the chicken or the egg


Where do you start? Building HT system (Budget $50K New discounted or used). Just finished ASC's WALL DAMP SYSTEM. Now need quality built and sounding electronics. Something recognized by audiophiles (just in case I turn into a junkie and want to dump it in a few months without getting killed, or laughted at). Value priced and not obsolete before its broken in. Tube or transistor but would like 7.1 capabilities. 75% home theater, 25% good stereo listening.
JUMP IN ! Put a system together and be ready to defend your picks to your death, or yield to someone more experienced and knowledgable.(I've read some of the posts, it can get nasty). You have been challenged.... who's first?
blob7

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The best advice may be to use the search function of these fourms. Insert key words..and see what you can use from work that's been done on prior posts. That said..it is more difficult to do HT that is still also a high-end 2 channel system. My biggest suggestion is to be VERY, VERY carefull with cable/dish or DSL feeds. These can cause real problems with system grounds..and more, and can handicap the very high-end sound you may be seeking. Good luck.
Leafs points sould not be missed. When one attends a live performance of any type..the best seat in the house is centered a few rows back.(or something of the like). I was in what used to be a high-end audio shop over the weekend..that is now a HT shop. Well, the "salesperson" played a new DVD-A cd for me that he thought was quite good. It sounded very, very stupid. The sound was spread out with noise comming at me from behind..to the point where it sounded like a higher-tech version of early 70's Quad..or worse. The vast majority of movies are making noise..and seem to think that it should come from the side and back ala Disneyland.. but this has absolutely nothing to do with music, either live or recorded. So, use two rooms. Take ten thousand and do a home theater room based on the 36"
XBR450 Sony and the Martin Logan Home theater speakers..get it over. Then take the other 20 to 40 thousand and spend time learning what you like about music and high-end audio.
Blob7, Mr. J_thunders makes some very good suggestions. AudiogoN by its very name is not VideogoN, and there is, likely, more reviews and HT systems to be seen on Audioreview. There was another thread, a few days back, complaining about service at a store called Tweeters. It seems that many former high-end stores went down the path of changing to HT to try to stay afloat. For many of them it was in vain. The Best Buys, Ultimate Audios, Circuit Cities and others are fitting the current direction of most peoples thoughts on what a store should be...maybe, maybe not. For what its worth Audio Odyssey in Iowa City, Audio Consultants in Chicago, and Audio Perfection in Minn. Minn., do the best
custom installs in the upper Midwest..that still can sound like music. AudiogoN is more of audio/music lovers site and if any of use have not served your quest well,...well, sorry. I have heard very good audio systems, that capture my attention, from five to two hundred fifty thousand..and most HT systems I've heard/watched(inc. ones where guys built on special rooms..etc.) have not been as successfull. That said, the closest I have seen/heard was with a direct view Sony or Loeve, and the Martin Logan HT speakers, perhaps a good place for you to start. Best of luck.
Blob7, the last three issues of The Perfect Vision might be a good place to look for some reviews, lists and opinions. But, like any review, it is just another opinion and could be tainted with loyalty to an advertiser. The Perfect Vision has a web site where you can download entire issues for $6.00(I think?), and the last 3 issues include reviews of the Martin Logan HT set-up(including a 2-channel perspective), and a "best of" list. But trust youself as you collect more info.
Dekay has some points there. Most of the HT systems I've seen have some big hard components in the center between the two main speakers, this is generally known not to be very good for the sound. But, I think, another major concern (besides the system ground concerns from cable, etc.) is the serious amount of extra wires, interconnects and components and their circuits. A direction that 2-channel seems to be going down, is to simplify systems. Home Theater, usually,
has many components, many interconnects...and yards of speaker wire. Perhaps it is as simple as Home Theater being able to be done well, (audio wise)..it's just harder to have success.
Hey all, which post is true? Actually, even in dissenting opinions, I think all of you/us have been trying to help the person that started this post. I just noticed that Blob7 ran a post a day earlier saying that he had purchased many items..speakers, amps..etc., then a day later there is this post acting like it's a clean sheet of paper..which is true? Have we all been trying/thinking/spending time and emotion, and we're not even starting out knowing what we're really working with? Especially you J_thunders..you gave this person some good input on the other post about a DVD player/processor. I think all that had input on this post should look at the other post, just click on Blob7 at the bottom of the this post. Which/what do you think/feel is true?
Think we've been had guys....his other post states that he has already purchased the REL Stadium III and now his reply to his post above states that he is thinking of the "Roc sub"...and the list goes on from there..
Actually thunders...my question was, his first post dated the 29th states gear he says he owns including speakers front, center, subs..etc., in this post he sounds like he has an empty room and his 1st reply on this post says he is thinking about speakers totally different than the models he claimed to own the day before. Look at his first response above...he states " do I buy the speakers first"..."thinking of the Talon...", and the day before his post states.."have purchased JMLabs Utopias..."etc.. It is honorable of you to defend a "new guy" this, however, may not be the right one.
Well guys, think I'll sign off from this one. If Mr. Blob7 is somehow not a crock..then my apologies. But from what I see in these two posts...I think he should call the guy at Hello Simply Music...should be able to get what he needs there.