Which brand of 45 tubes do you use?


Can anyone using 45 tube amplifiers share their knowledge about what manufactures make them and your impressions of the quality. An impression of the sound quality in your system would be useful. I know that there is NOS, EML and Sophia Electric 45s. Any others?
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Showing 3 responses by clio09

The S-30 is quite a nice amp and compact so it's a space savor. At a minimum I would get the power supply boost if you were to purchase one. You may also consider modifying it so the feedback loop is disconnected, even though Ralph uses an extremely low amount of feedback, or no feedback in his designs.

As for differences, I just find the M60 provides a more realistic sound stage with better imaging and separation of instruments, as well as more dynamics. The sound in the lower frequencies is where I hear the main difference with the M60 providing more of a good thing there. I think those who pan the bass in Atma-Sphere amps or consider it lean are mistaken. In addition, this whole thing about "tight" bass that I hear thrown around like ketchup on a burger is a misnomer to me. To me "tight" bass as I have heard it defined is a coloration and not something I want in my system. I find the M60 to provide a very natural presentation in the bass area.

Any Atma-Sphere amp, as well as any well designed OTL is going to give you transparency and detail the likes you have not heard before, assuming they are a good match for your speakers. The Music Reference OTL-1 is no different, although Roger and Ralph differ on their preferred platform for circuit design, Futterman vs. Circlotron, as well as use of feedback.

The OTL-1 was designed for high efficiency speakers or those who prefer low level listening. I've used mine on speakers of lower efficiency with good results as long as you keep the volume within reason. It is direct coupled with no output capacitor and a servo manages DC offset. The main thing I enjoy about the amp is it's flexibility. Four taps employ an autoformer that allows the amp to put out 10 watts into a 2, 4, 8, or 16 ohm load. Feedback can be taken from the same tap your speaker is connected to, or any other tap to adjust gain and damping (versus Atma-Sphere the OTL-1 has much lower output impedance). There is also a direct tap that bypasses the autoformer. In this case you get 1.7 watts into 4 ohms, 3.5 into 8 ohms, 7 into 16 ohms and 14 into 32 ohms.
Even if the cut off is 120 Hz I would still opt for the M60. I crossed my ESL57 at 100 Hz and while the S30 was fine, the M60 just gave me more.

A revival of the OTL-1 and a new Music Reference OTL are on the drawing board. Progress is somewhat at a standstill right now though for obvious reasons.
If you are interested in Berning amps then contact Linear Tube Audio. They manufacture amps based on the Berning ZOTL technology. Their ZOTL10 should work very well with your speakers and the price is just a tad over $3k.

I have owned both the Atma-Sphere S-30 and M60s. I know you don't need the power, but in my opinion the differentiation dictates that the M60 is the one to get. For reference I also have Music Reference and Futterman OTLs.

As for tubes, it's EML or bust for us for new production and RCA/Cunningham for NOS. Also, the recommendation to use Andy at VTS is a good one. He is my go to guy for NOS tubes I otherwise can't get my hands on.