Where are the cheap home streamers?


When CD players were first introduced, they were $1000 and more new.  And this was in early 80's dollars.  New ones would eventually drop to under $200, and new players that also play most all formats can still be had around at that price or less.  Sure, not the best quality, but they work well enough for most.  

The new frontier is of course, streaming.  Whether from a local host, online, and so on.  Many options in the high end, but what seems odd is the lack of budget options.  Probably the least expensive that's of decent quality is the Sonos Connect.  Oh sure, you can pair a computer or tablet with a cheap DAC, and get by.  Or roll your own with a Raspberry Pi solution.  And yes, most disc players are "smart" and can stream audio and video just fine.  Among other issues, is that the budget options are defaulting to HDMI out, and omitting Optical, Digital, and Analog out.  

There were some early efforts by Sony and Dlink a few years ago.  Both not only required a display, but were pretty terrible implementations overall.  We recently tried one of the Dayton WBA 31s.  For a mere $50, expectations were of course also modest.  As you might imagine, analog audio out is not great.  Below that of many phones we'd say.  It does however had an optical output.  A dealbreaker for most of our clients in terms of added complexity.  If produced in sufficient number, there is no good reason such a unit with a decent DAC couldn't be built and sold for $200 or so.  Or maybe someone is doing this, and it's just not well distributed?  



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@slackjef The Arylic is also a new one to us. It actually looks like an excellent candidate. Being able to use it as a dedicate preamp with two line inputs is a nice plus. You mentioned about being limited to CD quality, but the specs claim it supports 24/192. Perhaps only to be transcoded to 16 bit? Even if this is so, it still looks like a strong contender, and the price is right. Will definitely give this one a try.  Thanks!
@dougthebiker Now this is something I'd personally consider.  Definitely like the balanced outputs.  While I personally am experienced with the Pi's.  It'll never fly with our average customer, who usually spends around $1000 for the entire system, and would be intimidated by such a thing. 

Your's and all of the suggestions here are very much appreciated.  Pending actually checking one out personally, it looks like the Arylic may be the closest to what we are looking for.  
@pinwa While this looks like a good Bluetooth receiver, it's not the same as a dedicated streaming receiver.  You can of course use it to playback a stream on your system, but a phone, computer, tablet, or other device is needed as a source.  And while Bluetooth continues to improve, it is still a compromise over a directly connected Wifi/Ethernet receiver.  And yes, while streaming receivers are often controlled by phones and tablets, the streaming takes place locally on the device.  Many of the higher end streamers can be operation without a phone at all.  
@danvignau More and more recordings are available in high resolution, and that is a whole other can of worms. And yes, I would agree that some recordings benefit more than others from hi-res 24 bit.  

I was mainly referring to "lossless" audio.  By that I mean files that are bitwise the same as what would have been on the CD.  Flac, AAC, Wav, and so on.  Tidal and Amazon currently offer lossless streaming among others.   
The Chromecast audio was a great item.  Quite a few of our customers use them.  Many of which are delighted when the find out their vintage system can now stream audio.  It is such a shame that Google pulled the plug on this.  Amazon makes a similar device, and it's very good, but unless you are in the Amazon Music universe, it's useless.  

I've heard lots of good things about the Node 2i.  And in the great scheme, $450 isn't enormous.  I just think there needs to be something between the two.  

Ooo!  The Songbird sounds like a great candidate.  Will definitely give it a closer look.  
As for the Allo, and the Pi, and any other DIY stuff, they are great options for hobbyists.  And the results are beyond what you'd expect for the money.  In this case, we're looking for ready to run.  Many of our customers just want a simple solution.  
@reubent Seems like the Nord is UK only?  It does sound like a good candidate.  The app looks nice as well.  A key factor too.  The app Arylic uses has some mixed reviews.  I guess we are going to find out, as we've just ordered one.  
@musicsearch I may have missed something, but the Zen Blue appears to be just a Bluetooth adapter.  Sounds like a very good one though, with BT 5 and Aptx.  We are specifically for devices that can stream natively.  A phone or tablet is used to control them, but is not the source of the stream.  Virtually all devices that do this also act as bluetooth receivers.  An understandably confusing thing.  
@danvignau Yes, no argument that lossy audio is no comparison to a CD. We can only complete with CD fidelity if we we are streaming lossless audio that is bitwise the same. And locally streamed rather than Bluetooth.  As long as there is no data loss, and jitter and other issues are minimal, and our DAC is of sufficient quality. CD quality is no problem. In fact, I recently was listening to lossless audio via a computer connected to a Bryston BDA-2 DAC, and the results would best all but high end CD players.
The Yamaha looks like another good candidate.  It doesn't seem to be sold in the US unfortunately.  They do have a couple of units north of $300 USD.  Prefer to keep at or below $200 if possible.  

For those willing to spend a bit more, the Denon HEOS Link looks like a very nice unit.  Denon seems to be turning out some good quality gear these days in general.  
We just received the  Arylic Up2Stream S10 yesterday, and spent some time with it.  So far, we've just been playing tracks from Tidal.  While it most likely falls short of the Bluesound (we've not had one of these in the shop yet), it's pretty impressive.  Especially for under $100!  Just to underscore a point, many of our customers spend less than $1000 for their entire system.  

The Arylic ticks the boxes of native streaming of Tidal, and a good chunk of the other streaming services.  The 4stream app works pretty well so far.  We've yet to try DLNA streaming or local media playback.  And like all native streamers, it has a Bluetooth receiver.  Bluetooth 5.0 in fact.  The included remote is surprisingly good.  A welcome plus to not have to reach for your phone just to mute it, or change volume.   

We currently have it on a system with a Sound Valves VTP 100, a Hafler DH220 and a pair of Fyne 303s.  The performance is very listenable.  If anything it errs towards the softer end sonically, rather than the edgy hard character of some budget digital players.  This was especially true of the Dayton WBA-31, which is no comparison.  Quite surprising for something so inexpensive.