What songs/albums/artists actually sound worse when played through audiophile systems?


As much as audiophile equipment has elevated my enjoyment of music on many levels, there is some great music that just sounds worse than it used to when I had a cheapo system.  My number one example is the artist Ariel Pink (and the Haunted Graffiti).  His album Before Today is one of my all-time favorites, but played on my SET amp w/ Chord DAC and Klipsch Forte IIIs, it just sounds harsh/bad.  I know that my system is very revealing, and I love that about it, but damn, I may have to get a crappier secondary system to enjoy some great low-fi music again.

What songs/albums/artists are painful to listen to through your audiophile system?
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To my ears, anything with compressed DR sounds bad on a hi-fi system.

In the car it makes no difference. With ear buds it makes no difference. On my system at home ear fatigue comes quickly on highly compressed albums. Alabama Shakes (who I really like), both albums, are among the worst. I get the impression that their albums are mixed and engineered well and then DR compressed before distribution.


Someone in another thread said they could make them sound good with the proper system set up. With my level of inexperience I have no basis to deny it but I wouldn't believe it unless I heard it.

I just don't understand how you can make DR compressed music sound good when the range simply, by definition, is not there.
I think it sounds harsh simply because the range of volumes (?) is compressed so you get a narrower range of variation between soft and loud. This removes nuance, for lack of a better term....I’m not an expert.

It is also important to note the DR compression can and must be used to make a track listenable at normal volumes. Like a symphony with soft strings and then booming horns. The DR has to be compressed so that you can hear both at normal listening volumes.

It is heavy handed or 'over' DR compression that I’m talking about.

Why is it done wrong? It is my understanding that DR was compressed heavily to increase the relative loudness of the track or album making it more noticeable (??). This would be most effective in the car or with ear buds etc.

It is why some songs will sound ’louder’ than others if there is no equalization applied in iTunes, etc.

I have no idea why it is still done. To be honest, I’m not sure there is a lot of talent on the final production side of the recording industry these days and I think it is done simply because that’s been a standard practice since the 1990s. Metallica was one of the first bands to get significant bad press for the practice.

A recent example is a band called the Teskey Brothers who I really like. They do their own production on older analog equipment and they do a good job. But on their most recent album the CD is very compressed and unpleasant to listen to, while the vinyl is superb. Somewhere in the production process of the CD the DR was compressed while on the album it was not. Why? I have no idea.

The Dynamic Range Database is an excellent tool for finding the best recordings and I use it religiously as, in my opinion, it does not matter how meticulously a track is recorded, if the DR is compressed it doesn’t sound good. So that’s where I start.

I have found that certain artists are better about not over compressing. Steely Dan and Mark Knopfler come to mind. I have also noticed that within the Jazz genre there seems to be less DR compression. That alone is telling in my opinion.

Anyway, sorry about the rant. Of all the nuances audiophiles hear, I am not particularly sophisticated but DR compression for me is always noticeable and unpleasant. Also sorry about any inaccuracies or improper terms. If I’ve got something wrong I hope someone will chime in. There is a lot of info about DR compression out there. I think Wikipedia even has some good info.


I also think it is an under considered factor. As far as I am concerned (with my very limited experience) DR is the most important initial consideration for source quality. A hi-res file of a highly compressed recording is just hi -res noise to my ears.