What Matters and What is Nonsense


I’ve been an audiophile for approximately 50 years. In my college days, I used to hang around the factory of a very well regarded speaker manufacturer where I learned a lot from the owners. When I started with audio it was a technical hobby. You were expected to know something about electronics and acoustics. Listening was important, but understanding why something sounded good or not so good was just as important. No one in 1968 would have known what you were talking about if you said you had tweaked your system and it sounded so much better. But if you talked about constant power output with frequency, or pleasing second-order harmonic distortion versus jarring odd-order harmonics in amplification, you were part of the tribe.

Starting in the 1980s, a lot of pseudo scientific nonsense started appearing. Power cords were important. One meter interconnects made a big difference. Using a green magic marker on the edge of a CD was amazing. Putting isolation dampers under a CD transport lifted the veil on the music. Ugh. This stuff still make my eyes roll, even after all these years.

So I have decided to impart years and years of hard won knowledge to today’s hobbists who might be interested in reality. This is my list of the steps in the audio reproduction chain, and the relative importance of each step. My ranking of relative importance includes a big dose of cost/benefit ratio. At this point in the evolution of audio, I am assuming digital recording and reproduction.

Item / Importance to the sound on a scale of 1-10 / Cost benefit ratio

  • The room the recording was made in / 8 / Nothing you can do about it
  • The microphones and setup used in the recording / 8 / nothing you can do about it.
  • The equalization and mixing of the recording / 10 / Nothing you can do about it
  • The technology used for the recording (analog, digital, sample rate, etc.) / 5 / nothing you can do about it.
  • The format of the consumer recording (vinyl, CD, DSD, etc.) 44.1 - 16 really is good enough / 3 / moderate CB ratio
  • The playback device i.e. cartridge or DAC / 5 / can be a horribe CB ratio - do this almost last
  • The electronics - preamp and amp / 4 / the amount of money wasted on $5,000 preamps and amps is amazing.
  • Low leve interconnects / 2 / save your money, folks
  • Speaker cables / 3 / another place to save your money
  • Speakers / 10 / very very high cost to benefit ratio. Spend your money here.
  • Listening room / 9 / an excellent place to put your money. DSPs have revolutionized audio reproduction
In summary, buy the best speakers you can afford, and invest in something like Dirac Live or learn how to use REW and buy a MiniDSP HD to implement the filters. Almost everything else is a gross waste of money.
phomchick

Showing 7 responses by amg56

The tweakers have their place in all this. They keep the industry ticking over, edging on the next "find". Out of all of it, something inevitably filters down to the average user to improve their system.

They also keep the threads ticking over to amuse us.

My current setup in the lounge is crammed with surround speakers, 16awg speaker cable off the reel (99.9% OFC) @$3/m, cables mixed with power boards and power cables and ethernet cables in the back of an entertainment cabinet, an amplifier in one of the cabinet ends (cooled with a computer fan cut into one end) and an OPPO-105, Yamaha Tuner and a mini computer in the other end cabinet (cooled the same as the other) and 2 NAS units either side of the centre speaker, and a 65" Samsung sitting on top in the middle of the L & R main speakers, oh and the Sub sitting to one end on the wood floor. No spikes, nothing special apart from an Isotek conditioner.

I still get fantastic sound out of stereo music or surround movies. I certainly don't see the need for change. But change will happen when our new home is built and I get a separate music room. I just ordered my equipment stands. 6 chunky coffee tables (@$125ea), 2 for the turntables and pre at the front and 4 double stacked for the other stuff at the side of the room. Upgrade of speakers mean I'll use 3 matching chunky lamp tables @$99) for the LCR speakers up front. I'll use some felt on the feet so the herringbone French Oak floors don't get scratched. The other speakers will fit at their required places as will the 2 new Subs. Same telly on the wall, the room will be great and I have spare change! Who says I need high brow wires and interconnects? May be I am a realist with my money vs the great sound I appreciate.


When I was growing up you got speakers, amplifier tube or transistor), turntable (stylus usually came pre-installed), speaker wire/plugs, and Singles/LPs. Then in the years afterwards things got complicated.

I actually disagree that the introduction of a component that "structurally" changed the system you have is a "tweak". The Urban Dictionary defines tweaks "Tweak- to touch something up, fiddle with the finishing touches or make tiny little changes".

Additions of cables or regenerators or major room adjustments are not tweaks. These are major changes to the essence of the "HiFi" setup you have.

Moving a speaker a degree toe in, or a small adjustment to the stylus etc are to me tweaks. To me, major physical changes aren't tweaks.

@geoffkait I have no problem with your statement. However Tweaks are still referred to as small changes.

However I absolutely agree that an unpredictable change may produce a large influence in the way we appreciate the sound (in this forum's case) of audio/music. That in essence is what tweaks in this forum are about. And it is my hope that readers and writers in this forum will share them with explanation.

I am not sure what your are referring to regarding as an "artificial atom"?

Graphene is a new phenomena that pushes the boundaries of known physics. A 2D slice acting as a 3D wave in perpetual motion. Along with advances with cancer detection and treatments, knowledge of the universe via Hubble and it's successor (the name of which escapes me for the moment).

It makes my world seem humble, but I love learning.

Nice post but I don't believe a bit of it. If you liked the way your setup sounded why would you change it, given your last comment:

"Do enjoy you system however you want, but don’t tell me what I do and do not get results from.
Because you don’t have any way of knowing."

Your post read like a clear window - you could see right through it.

@aalenik There are a group of music and system appreciators "sit on the fence" until they can see benefit or proof that the act of that tweaking (not twerking), or that the product (if it even is a product) is worth the price tag.

Note I called a group "music and system appreciators" rather than audiophiles. Not all music lovers are audiophiles per se'. Some like music very much, and as such spend the appropriate money on the system that satisfies their need. Indeed they love live music and seek to see that their system plays this out, to a point. Free tweaks are always appreciated though.

Audiophiles go all out to acquire the system that best reproduces a sound that is closest to live music. What ever the cost is some cases. These people are the ones who appreciate tweaks, go out and afford to themselves inch thick speaker cables, gauge to the 1/2 degree, toe in or out of speakers. These people expect to attain the best reproduced sound, through hardware, source accuracy, reproduction accuracy and tweaks to get even more from their system. Some will pay big dollars for it if it has been represented correctly. Some will blow hard of tweaks to gain legitimacy in a forum.

I am admittedly from the appreciator group. I know I simply cannot afford the big stuff. But free tweaks I can appreciate. Advice on how to set a room up by moving things around (wife's permission is mandatory) is a great tweak. I like live music, and appreciate my system to represent as closely as I can afford, the music my wife and I enjoy.

Cheers. A.