What makes instrument immediacy, -separation & -bo


What makes instrument immediacy, -separation & -body density ?

Most speakers i´ve heard present a "you are there" presentation, where you have the feeling of sitting in the recording room/hall. But instrument separation is mostly poor and body is thin even with high end systems.

My ideal reproduction paradigm is : the instruments are playing in my room, 5ft in front of my feet and i "look" into the stage which is ideally extending beyond wall boundaries of the front wall.
The goal is:
maximum instrument body density already at moderate levels.
high contrast between soundstage,air around the instruments and dense instrument body. grip.
instruments appear deep anchored, earthed, energized,
Immediacy while having a cohertent not forward presentation.
deep soundstage

which products (cdp,preamp,amp (300b?),speakers) favourize these design goals ?

yet i´ve found bookshelfs and tube amps to be good in these categories, but havent found a excellent system yet.
Energy speakers were not bad.
Didnt like B&W 805, Dynaudio, JMlab micro utopia - possibly with wrong (cheap) amplification.

What do you think of Reference 3a MM Decapo i with VAC ren 30/30 in a 20x17x9 room ? system budget: 9k

greets

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Showing 1 response by pbb

Honestly, I find that what you are seeking is just the opposite of what live music in most venues sounds like. I am always amazed at how, except, obviously, for solos or one section of the orchestra playing on its own, the sound of an orchestra is way more homogenized than what audiophiles seek. Rock, or other amplified music for that matter, is the same for another reason: the homogeneity comes from the fact that everything comes out through the PA system.

Seems that on the road to the absolute sound, people keep forgetting what the real thing sounds like. What strikes me more as missing from recorded music are the speed, airiness and dynamics of the real thing. My youngest daughter started drumming about a month ago and I can tell you that no system has the slam of a real bass drum or the shimmer of a real cymbal.

The only music that makes sense to experience as the it is here in the room notion, is anything that could actually fit in your room: a solo piano, a trio or quartet at most, a folksy singer with guitar accompaniment. Anything bigger and you have to give that up,