What makes a $20,000 cd player cost 20,000?


Hi,
Listened to a Linn Sondeck CD12 (sp?) a few years back and the thing amazed me.
Was expecting that digital player development would continue to progress and that this level of performance would become available in the 2-5,000 range. It appears to me that redbook cd player development has stagnated, so I wanted to run a couple questions by for a sanity check.
1. Is there anything in the design or manufacture of top notch cd players that neccessarily results in stratospheric production costs?
2. Has anything come out in the last two or three years that really struck you as raising the bar in the price to performace ratio?
Happy listening.
jeff_jones

Showing 3 responses by cytocycle

Gamut CD1R, CD1S, CD1 MkII - Give it a listen it will amaze you for the price! Probably the cheapest component in my system! including cables!
Its simple the 20k product is designed as a statement! They will never generate the high profit margin large quanity sales of this product.. it's used as a design exercise that typically some of this technology becomes less expensive to produce and ends up in lower level products that make for a good value (and more importantly larger volumn for the manufacture)

Look at the Ford GT40, compared to the Mass produced Mustang... you can mod the mustang to be as fast if not faster for less but it will never have the finesse of a product originally designed to excel! A lot of modded mustangs perform worse, break things, etc... as they exceed specs..

I've heard upgraded components that were suppose to sound better because all the cheap parts were replaced with more expensive parts and guess what... it wasn't musical!!!! You can buy on the theory or you can listen and make up your own mind! Some designers actually listen when they design and build things... Case in point (internal silver wiring YUK! or maybe perfect for that dark, rolled off system that has other problems!!!)...

Why is it that Modded players are worth nothing on the used market (especially after 6-12months? Because people are worried about service and reliability for something that was tweaked! Do you look for a stock car when you buy your everyday transportation or for a 4cylinder with a bottle of NOS strapped on?

The bottom line- If you don't understand it, don't buy it! it's america and you have a choice...

I personally can't justify the difference between the 4k player I have and a 10k or 20k player, but that's the value and limits I have set for myself for a digital front end because technology marches on... on the other hand I value and can hear the difference over my 20k Lamm amps versus a pair of digital hand built amps that people rave about on these forums.. What's the difference? Next year a cheaper better digital chip will make the $1000 player better than the $5000 player (DVD players have been doing this about every 6 months), Amplifiers haven't changed much.. I listened to the digital stuff but still perfer Class A sound even with the Heat!

I love the choices we have here in America!
Tvad: I agree that proprietary parts aren't manufactured but the processor you see in a high end player this year you might see in a lower end player next year.. Most of the high end products spend their money building multiple powersupplies and trying to isolate the digital from the analog ...
Economy of scale would also dictate that the high end players are hand assembled due to the limited quantity sold (wouldn't make sense to tool up a factory to kick out 100-500 units..)