I've massive respect designers like Paul Birkeland truly remarkable value for money products still enjoy listening stereomour mk1 very happy marriage with Maxonic TW1100.
what is your opinion ?
Hi everyone, last 18 years I've got hooked up to vintage Tube amplifiers, prior to that I was rather happy with SS muscle amps driven to my Apogee Scintilla and Duetta sig's truly open 3D soundstage Few tube amps was able accept Apogee marriage but not as good as SS amps, until I ended up bargain priced infamous Altec's voice the theatre speakers not a wife pleaser but luckly I've got a dedicated music room, never looked back since then ,,WE design 91 , WE46C , RIP Don Garber, even loftin White design SET amps T.Mayer Attilio Caccamo of Tektron some genious Japanese design SET Amps they all have unique presantation complimented by incredable sound of 45, 2A3, VT52,300B, E406N, even modern production Sophia 206 , and many more ! my question is why these old school design audio sounds nearer to reality ? naturally we are all aware of room acoustics tuning our rooms etc, etc are we listening equipment or music ? do we really need furniture grade Audio equipment ? or maybe we humans are we trying to re invent the wheel again ?
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Thanks , I would really like to hear from other music lovers and Audiphiles, their experiences which regards SET amplifiers and horns and other high sensivity speakers, as a retired BBC Sound engineer ,once I had a opportunity to good chat with RIP Don Garber asked him what is the best system, his respond was ,,,The Best system is the one you are really enjoying listening to . |
My thread about SET amps, and horn speakers not OTL nor PP or other magnificent tube/ valve designs I Was expected to hear from SET Amps owners and their experience with horn designs not daring to argue about which is best or worst, some listeners tries to invite musicans into their listening rooms some claims singers singing at to them even some says just like being there, what ever floats our boats as long as we are happy and enjoy listening music.as far I know everything copy of copy nothing is original even in terms of Audio engineering J.Futterman came up Design of with OTL amps rather talented E.engineers improve or re create their own design ''hats off ''to all talented unique engineers after or simple design like SET Amps goes back 1900 still makes marvelous music, no wonder P.Walker once said keep it short and simple K.I.S.S. |
Hi Dan, I fully respect what you are saying but initial invention of OTL amp as far as I know creation of J.Futtermam, it means the wheel already has been invented ! talented guys like yourselfs improve /re create OTL Amp Design Such as Berning makes Delicious OTL Amps Acuhorn makes OTL Amps and many more, but I sincerely do not understand why we are discussing OTL Amps, my initial question was SET Amps and Horns and really wanted to hear from SET Amps and horn lovers or enthusiasts . kindest regards.Sabih |
Dear atmasphere, You just hit the nail on the head ! my opening post definetely old school designs , Somehow you have started to bombard me Your OTL Design amplifier as you clearly explained yourself who ever came up with the idea of OTL Amps still goes back few years back basicly the wheel already been invented talented guys like your self improve the design which is fantastic really hats off ! which regarding that one is not OTL This one is OTL , Mine is better Yours is worst kind of aproach I Personally believe is absurd .As mention before What ever floats your boat ! as an ex BBC Sound engineer I've set studios up artists like E.John to led zeppellin all they interested music and good recordings not hertz and kilohertz. and again still would like to hear from SET amps and horns enhusists. best regards.Sabih |
Dear
gregm3, Thank you for your kind reminder, as if you are commenting behalf of
@atmasphere , I started my post Old school design valve amps and Horn speakers, all of sudden got bombarded by OTL Amps lectured Incapabilities of VOTT And apogee ribbons , I presumed gentlemen either a proud owner, cult follower or owner of OTL company and many occasions complimented to him what he has achieved with his design, all the great designers engineers I've met they were all modest and respect to other designers and enginers as a matter of fact never ever seen or come a cross any designer arrogantly defiantly diverts to discussion another directions, finally I'm not interested hertz and kilohertz circuits transformers and I'm not reffering to another dimension or another world ! thread was Old School design amps, & Horns,as mentioned before nothing is original everything is comes from somewhere and great designers
@atmasphere
improves or makes it even better so many times I Said HATS OFF guys like him, I do not want exchange messages what is what ? circuits , transformers etc, All I'm interested with Music listening music even if it is whitely or Kondo amplifiers and quad 57's as long I can listen music, why waste time discussions like this ? therefore please we should never ever offend anyone nor tell them hertz and kilohertz whatever floats your boat best regards |
Dear atmasphere, I'm not sure what you mean,,, by ''
You'll notice I stay away from that sort of talk.'' in one of my post mentioned D.Berning OTL design you have instantly made a comment he uses this, that , semiconducters etc, etc, as a matter of you start to critise other OTL Design and lectured me VOTT capabilities please allow me to remind you the goal is civilised discussion about old school desings esp SET Amps and horns , at age of 71 after 55 years inside and outside of this amazing audio industry lucky enough to meet Great designers and engineers like N.Pass, j.rowland, Thomas Mayer, RIP Don Garber,K.Ishiwata,Mr Yamamura and many more their very human approch to life and massive respect to all other genius designers never stop learning approach is true example of we never stop learning till we stop breathing . thanks best regards. |
My dear atmasphere, you are like dog with bone somehow you do not let go you are picking few words from my post in a unique manipulative way trying to score a point, perhaps you need to read my post carefully I'm not using VOTT or apogee speakers I'm currently using Maxonic speakers with we 91 design amplifier feel whatever you feel ! I never offend you nor dare to make a negative comment in fact I complimented you several times. The way you deliver your messages does not sound too friendly, rather sterile and commanding ! for your information I have never ever come a cross designer / manufacturer spends time on this kind of forums I honestly not that sure what are you trying to achieve ? let me remind you once again my intention is hear from SET Amps and horn owners not OTL design amps , if it not broken do not try to fix it.Please please please respect my simple request not to respond me. best wishes. |
Dear Ralph,Thank you apology accepted. best wishes Dear mrdecibel2, how kind you are ! perhaps you were not able to read my earlier posts about my statement about life, Life is a biggest university we never stop learning till We stop breathing . not sure about me been narrow minded !on the contrary Human mind it works like parachut if it is open it works ! if it doesn't Tough luck. it is incredable how clearly you are describing yourself enjoy your SS &Horns and I Hope you'll find a right speaker for your future OTL. also 2 is a company 3rd one is a crowd . please do not try play for spectators keep your rude /offensive comments to yourself . have a nice day . |