WHAT HAS WORKED FOR YOU? ISOLATION PLATFORMS, FOOTERS, ETC. for a DAC?


What is reasonable to expect in SQ gain with respect to a DAC, since there are no actively moving parts?

Footers only? Platforms only? Or is a combination of both best?

Keeping this open ended (as well as budget wise) to see what Audiogon Members recommend and advise.

However, thoughts on Gains v.s. Spend with the specific products you are recommending are welcome and will be very helpful.

The only footers I have used in the past are those from Herbie's Audio Lab.  I have used two different 'audio' racks (which have been dismantled) and I am using their shelves as isolation platforms for my speakers and other components (but not the DACs).

The DACs in use are a Schiit Yggdrasil and an Exogal Comet Plus. The stock rubber footers with the Yggdrasil are as basic as they come; The Comet has an acrylic plate with rounded metal screws.

THANK YOU!
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Erik, Thank you.

I'm working on the room.

I do have a power supply.

Have remaining few wall warts off a Shunyata PS8, and am using a LPS where possible.

USB 'Isolation, regeneration, etc' is via a Sonore microRendu w/ Ultracap LPS. 

Geoff, Thank you. I have moved forward with upgraded cabling with very good results.

It appears that both of you are saying that 'isolation solutions' with regards to a DAC isn't that important. Is that correct?









@geoffkait : thanks for the clarification.

@chayro : Sage advice. And I do trust my ears. And more than a little bit. Your words put a smile on face...thanks.

@folkfreak : 1. all of my components are housed in an all wood Standout Designs cabinet. 2. I'm using Triode Wire Labs power cords. 3, 4, 5: Thanks for your thoughts. I will look into Marigo.

@randy-11: I'm using a HD Plex 100 Linear Power Supply and an Uptone Audio UltraCap LPS-1.  The Comet DAC, my Preamp, and my HeadAmp all have dedicated power supplies.

@czarivey : let's make that substance assistance...I don't want to get in trouble. :)  

@lordcloud : how do you address vibration with your components?

@respected_ent : Might also help with the cheese and crackers and charcuterie to go with @czarivey 's suggestive direction.

@lowrider57 : Thanks and agreed.  Also, I'm almost finished replacing the wall warts...router and ethernet port switch still need to be connected to something like the HD Plex. I'm beyond the iFi unit at this point.
@mikelavigne : Fascinating. I had no idea there were products available like the Herzan TS-150. It's a very interesting site. Thanks for bring this up and I'm really looking forward to reading about their technology and applications. I also took a quick look at the Wave Kinetics site and will revisit it as well. Thank you!
@randy-11: I've been on the Uptone bandwagon for some time now and was in the first wave for the Iso-Regen. I haven't brought it in-system yet...too many changes going on at present...I want the system to be fully stable before I test the Iso-Regen in the chain and where in the chain it might be useful.

If you re-read my original post, I do have the Comet Plus. Thanks.
Thanks to everyone for your thoughts on the subject and your recommendations.

I’m still looking at options. Some that I believe have not been mentioned in this thread are:

- DH Cones/Golden Sound
- Daedalus
- IsoAcoustics
- Synergistic Research MiGs
- EdenSound (thanks, @lowrider57)
- Symposium
- Gregitek
- Alto-Extremo

Any experience with the above products, and if so, your impressions / recommendations?



@13blm: Thank you. I did come across the Anvil footers and they are on the list!
@firedrums   I have recommended Star Sound Technologies for speaker isolation...and had forgotten about their platforms for components. Thanks for the reminder!
@john_g Thanks! Can you give me some details on how the pads you linked to have performed in your system?

@btw22 That's good to hear about the Symposium shelves. They are offering a discount on their roller-bearing products with their shelf units...do you have any experience with those?

@mechans  Great to hear that regarding the customer service and customization by Eden Sound. I recently considered a Backert Labs Preamp and Backert uses Eden Sound in their higher end configurations.
@btw22  and @goose Thanks for the additional info on Symposium's tungsten balls/bearings and their roller blocks. 

@bdp24  Thank you for bringing Ingress Engineering to my attention. And yes, less expensive! Always a good thing. 

@tecknic Great to hear that you have had very positive results with the Alto Extremo line of products. 

@tommylion I'm using Herbie's Tenderfeet under some of my secondary components. Have been a fan of Herbie's products for quite some time and have used his tube dampers as well. Currently, I have his Giant Threaded Stud Gliders for my primary speakers and the Giant Gliders under the platforms supporting the speakers (a doubled up solution) to very good effect.
A general shout out of Thanks and Appreciation to all of you that have posted information in this thread. It has been very helpful and of great educational value to me. 

But I believe I've cracked open the proverbial box on this. : )

It's a good problem since it appears that there are a number of very good choices. But a difficult one in terms of trying to figure out which one or ones to go forward with.
Bruce McDougall of Anvil Turntables reached out a couple of days ago and I should have a set of his Anvil Footers early next week.

@tweaknkeep Thanks for sharing what’s worked for you. Now I’ll get to try the same. :)

As @steakster and others have pointed out, the journey begins!

I will update the thread as the Anvil Footers, and other products I’ll likely go forward with, come in system.


Another update, and a shout out to @bdp24  for bringing these to my attention.

I connected with Mike of Ingress Audio Engineering and will be getting a set of Level 2 and a set of Level 3 Rollerblocks in a few weeks.


@gbmcleod and @geoffkait

Very informative and relevant posts for me. Thanks to both of you.

I’ve found out first hand, for the first time, what both of you are referring to with the Anvil Turntable Footers under my DAC. Location does matter!

I believe, in the case of the Anvil Turntable Footers, they are operating in multiple directions. Perhaps @13blm (Bruce) can comment?

Any advice from both of you on keeping track of position and results, especially when one has six footers and two surface areas to cover?
@bg1968  Thanks for your suggestions. I do not have any experience with Myrtle blocks. However, we do have six mature Crepe Myrtle trees on our property. :)  

I'm using Herbie Audio's Giant Fat Gliders to great affect under my speakers.
@geoffkait  and others, 

Is there a simple or somewhat simple way to figure out mass distribution of a component, other than eyeballing transformer postion(s) and weightier sections and going by felt weight?


@gwng8   Great that you are getting the Level 2 and 3s in for yourself.

I think it will depend on the component and the only way to really know is to try them out for yourself.

The Level 3s (version 1) with carbide bearings had a significant impact on sound quality and performance for my Schiit Yggdrasil DAC. Quite Amazing actually, and instantly delivered.  I am using the Level 2s (I have 2 sets) under my server and under my Preamp. 

I plan to order two sets of the newest Level 3s so I can swap out the 2s for both the Preamp and it's power supply.