What do you do when you get a bad vinyl record pressing?


I'm not talking about just buying any record off the shelf, taking it home and discovering it sounds like turds. I mean when after you've done as much research as you could to find out what particular pressing is the best sounding of that album and purchased it online or found it in the wild. 

I had my latest disappointment with The Cult. I remember the album, which I had on CD, from my college days and recalled there were some pretty cool songs on the album. In fact I recall liking the whole album. I wondered how it would sound on my rig now? So I did the research and got a NM Canadian pressing. This is the honest truth - the whole record sounds terrible with no bass except for She Sells Sanctuary! It's crazy how the mastering of every song on an album may not be from the same recording. Many times it seems there is one song or a couple that seems to just sound better than the other songs on the album. 

I was really bummed out. That album could have been such a killer album. Bernie Grundman or Steven Wilson should remix it. So what do I do when this happens and I love the album?

I play it on another rig. A less critically serious rig. Most times these albums spring to life and are great. Is it the coloration of the vintage gear? Who knows but sometimes ignorance is bliss!

vuch

Not quite lathe chips but that turntable was deplorable. It ruined a lot of LP's. It seemed like it would grind the inside tracks. I used AudioTechnica cartridges and a Concord cartridge.  I really liked the Concord cartridge.  I wish I had one now to listen to some 50 years later.  Played through a Sansui 8080 which was a sweet amp.  -John

Yeah, I hate that. I typically listen to it for a while to set if it grows in me and then I sell it if it doesn't. 

@mikelavigne 

the first thing i did was to pull out all the digitally sourced pressings, which came to 400-450. these i took to a second hand store and sold them for $200

I wish you could have thrown them my way.

Especially now we have found out just how many 'analogue' disks were secretly digitally mastered 

@jsd52756 “Not quite lathe chips, but that turntable (Garrard Zero 100) was deplorable”

My scalpel joking aside, l know the Garrard Zero 100 very well. I did only know of one owner who loved it, a girl. I think she just liked the “bling l👀k” with all that see through plastic arm pivot mechanism.

The idea was sound mathematics but the resulting sound was never great. Too much horizontal friction in the engineering to make the null point “zero” all through the record.  The cartridge angle movement while playing was a novelty selling point.

As l say, on paper correct tracking was a good idea but there was just too much to overcome with the engineering. Also you could not use the lightest tracking cartridges with so much leveraging to move the cartridge.

In the 70s 1.25 grams was the preferred tracking weight for Shure V15’s and the Goldring G900 series for examples. With the Zero 100 not a good idea… think of doubling that with over 2 and up to 3 grams to stay in the groove. It could never track any of the so called Shure “trackability” test records.

Garrard tried and failed, but they did sell a lot. For the serious hi-fi enthusiast it was only ever considered a gimmick at best.

I wish you could have thrown them my way.

Especially now we have found out just how many ’analogue’ disks were secretly digitally mastered 

@richardbrand 

i did think about who might want them.

so i considered taking them to my local audio club and offering them for free. so i would have had to wait for the next meeting. but the Dear Wife over ruled me and insisted i sell them. and logistically after sitting on all these records for three years, finally getting my shelving delivered to allow me to be able to process them, i just wanted to move on from the one’s i was not going to keep. and once i loaded them in my car, which was a pain in itself, i decided if the second hand store did not want them, they would go to the land fill, i was not going to unload them and load them again. i was in a removal mind set and wanted to move on.

if i would have known someone locally who actually wanted digitally sourced classical records i would have called them to pick them up. but for sure i was not going to ship them. the cost would have been triple the value. and a serious effort to pack and ship. so not worth it.

and yes out of my 12,000 records i do have some digitally sourced pressings; it’s less than 7% closer to 5%. and as much as people want to make a big deal about it......it’s not really. some digitally sourced pressings sound good, some don’t.....but none sound great compared to all analog. but some have great music which overrides the digital part. the recording process and music are bigger overall than the all analog or not. i’m not anti digitally sourced. but it’s not nothing either. and i have a top digital source so i do realize how they compare (mostly prefer the streaming file to the pressing). i do have a dozen or so of the MFSL digital step pressings which i don’t care for really. preferred my other all analog pressings to those before the big reveal. but never knew about the digital step until it came out. it was enlightening to realize why i did not care for them as a few were some favorite music in 45 rpm. live and learn.

the reason i wanted to get rid of these digitally sourced classical pressings was more about space and time to clean, and the cost of a liner and jacket. they were not worth more shelving and such......to me. i wanted to know my efforts for each pressing would be worth it.