What am I missing? Pre/power gain and input sensitivity.


I’ve read a few posts about power amps with lower gain needing a pre with additional gain, but no one seems to mention input sensitivity in those conversations. If my source outputs 2V and my power amp input sensitivity is only 1.2V then whether the power amp gain is 16dB or 26dB my pre amp is attenuating the signal and the amount of gain on the pre doesn’t matter at all. With a given set of speakers, to get the same SPL with 2 different amps they should just need to output the same voltage, regardless of how they get there.

Am I missing something?

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I've been reading some of these discussions, and had to chime in here, as I've been trying to get to the bottom of what constitutes a good match preamp to amp as well.
I am finding it comes down to gain, output impedence of preamp to input impedence of amp, voltage output of preamp, and input sensitivity of amplifier. Transconductance apparently comes into play with tube preamps as well.

Here is a link from Steve Deckert at Decware that describes these factors: https://www.decware.com/paper55.htm

I currently have a Decware Torii Junior, 20 watt tube amp, and Canary Audio C630 tube preamp. Looking to replace with a Rogue Audio RP-7.

 Cannot get above 86dB spl at 10’ without pushing both units above 70% full throttle on some recordings. But at these sound levels, the music is liquid velvet, gorgeous. Just want a little more headroom, and volume.

Canary output impedence: 1600 ohms; Torii Jr Input impedence 100k ohms

Also, Decware amps are set to 2 volt input sensitivity, compared to industry standard of 1 volt or less.

These two specs reveal this is probably not a good match. Lower output impedence (50-100 ohms) matched with a high input impedence (100k+) is a happier balance. Higher max output voltage on preamp and higher gain helps as well.

Of course for those of you who have 100 watt+ amplifiers, this is all a moot point.

Enjoy hearing good sound! Like a gourmet meal!