What actually determines volume power? Is it watts?


I have a Yamaha AS-3200 amp. It sounds beautiful and has a really good open sound. The problem is I like my music loud since I live alone and typically I have the volume 70% and with some recordings it is not high enough. I need a amp that has more power/volume.

The AS-3200 is 200 watts at 8 ohms. I see many amps, even much more expensive ones (like the Yamaha M-5000), are also at around 200 watts per a channel at 8 ohms. I am going by 8 ohms for my speakers and also the worse case scenarios. Does this mean if I had a more expensive class AB amp like the M-5000 I would still be listening at 70% volume and getting the same power/loudness? If not, then what actually determines the volume power if not watts?

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For what it  might be worth and given that our systems are VERY different, here is my experience.  I have a 75W tube amp (ARC Ref75se using 8 ohm tap) driving speakers with a nominal  impedance of 8 ohms and a sensitivity of 91db-listening room (and 89db anechoic chamber).  I have never seen the meters on the amp ever go higher than 5-10W.  I usually listen with the volume setting on my preamp (0-103) (ARC Ref6) between 3 and 26, background and dedicated listening when I want to blown away so that nothing else exists.  I have very "transparent" (NOT the brand) cables.  Anything louder borders on painful and I am afraid of blowing something out.  There is no where in this system to adjust the gain.  I wish there was because I'd like to use less attenuation of the volume.

With respect to volume, lots more in the signal path matters. I do not stream. Source: caching server with its own internal SSD, Macbook pro running JRiver Media Center, hi-res files on computer or external SSD, and embarrassed to reveal you tube.   I run only NOS (no over sampling, all processing is disabled in JRiver except volume leveling and PEQ - parametric equalizer).  Volumes for each source are different.  All sources run without attenuation.

Conclusion, to echo what many others have suggested: this needs a systems approach.  The best solution to OP's original question would be found in the synergy of the individual components of the system as a whole.  And for ultimate endgame satisfaction the solution must include the often forgotten details that matter like the room's dynamics and the listener's hearing, sonic & music genre preferences.  It has taken a long time to sort through all this for myself.

SPL which answered all my questions (and is fun to play with) Toptes TS-501B from Amazon for less than $30.

Happy listening dear friends, Leon AKA Timbrehead