We should reject hard-to-drive speakers more often


Sorry I know this is a bit of a rant, but come on people!!

Too many audiophiles find speakers which are hard to drive and... stick with them!

We need to reject hard-to-drive speakers as being Hi-Fi. Too many of us want our speakers to be as demanding as we are with a glass of wine. "Oh, this speaker sounds great with any amplifier, but this one needs amps that weigh more than my car, so these speakers MUST sound better..."

Speakers which may be discerning of amplifier current delivery are not necessarily any good at all at playing actual music. 

That is all.

erik_squires

Showing 9 responses by mrdecibel

I believe it all depends on what the listener wants and is looking for. I have not found an amp that cannot drive my Lascalas, but the quality and characteristics of each amp leaves me to prefer one over the other. I had AR9s, DQ10s, Kappa 9s, Gale 401s, panels, and many other hard to drive speakers. I had many an amp that could drive them without clipping, but they all failed ( the speakers ) in the dynamics department. Like I said, it is up to the listener to select what suits him / her best. Always, MrD.

For clarity ( no pun intended ) it is the Klipsch model Lascala, Revision AL5 that was just reviewed by Stereophile, but it IS part of the Heritage line. Klipsch does have a model called the Heresy, which also has been around a long time, which has also gone through many iterations. My best always, MrD.

It was more specifically the Crown Studio Reference. It was awesome, back them. I have not heard a GAN amp in my system yet. I have tried other class D, none which did anything new I do not have with my current collection of amps. As I enjoy class A, and I enjoy mosfets, I am sure there will be one coming my way ( Ralph, are you listening ? ). I am behind Wolf in the line....MrD.

Buddy of mine a long time ago owned the TOTL ( at that time ) MBL. He was running them with the TOTL ( at that time ) Jadis gear. Vinyl and cd were used. The system sounded remarkable, as far as tone and spatial properties were concerned. One day, I brought over my Crown Reference ( whatever the " audiophile " home version was at the time, as I no longer own it ). Talk about dynamics and control. MBL / Crown were a match made in heaven. IMO, for what I wanted, that pairing was dabomb. Owning Lascalas at that time as well, my buddie’s system, with the Crown ( fully balanced, 2 20 amp dedicated circuits ), was a revelation. I played my vinyl of Santana’s Amigos album, and when Europa came on, I cried like a baby. Knowing the story behind the song, written by Carlos and Tom, it has always been a deep deep listen for me....but.........I never had that same reaction using my Lascalas, or anything else for that matter. I might say, it was the BEST listening experience I ever had, listening to a system. I give the credit to the MBLs. So, they needed power. I sure did not care. Phenomenal ! Another point. My analog rig did not equal his, and digital did not equal analog ( back then ).My best, always. MrD.

@bdp24 I have no idea what was said by kenjit, as I pass him over when reading. My point was, there is no ONE speaker for all of us, let alone a perfect one. Sorry if I was vague in my communication of that point. 

@bdp24.... What if a few of us got together to try to design a speaker, we all liked.......This is the thing, and it is ok. We each like what we like, without need to defend why. Unfortunately, many are still searching for that " perfect sound forever ". And Eric, I meant zero offense. We all just need to lighten up a little. My best, always, MrD..

What tube amps ( tubes used in the output stage ) can " adequately " drive 1 ohm Scintillas ? I am not aware of any, and would like to know, so I may sleep better tonight. My best, MrD.

I have been around the block with Apogee speakers back in the day, including the Scintilla ( I actually owned, for a year, the Duettas ). My question was, as stated, " adequately " drive? I am not fond of tube amps ( low / poor damping factor ), which is a shame, as I own horns. The times I used tubes for mids / highs, and ss for bass, I always was aware of the " transition " between the two. Listen, I have always said, " whatever the listener enjoys, that is fine. I like what I like, and I don’t like, what I don’t. My best, and enjoy ! MrD.