To whom it may concern,
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All the best,
Nonoise
We Need To Talk About Ones And Zeroes
Several well-respected audiophiles in this forum have stated that the sound quality of hi-res streamed audio equals or betters the sound quality of traditional digital sources.
These are folks who have spent decades assembling highly desirable systems and whose listening skills are beyond reproach. I for one tend to respect their opinions.
Tidal is headquartered in NYC, NY from Norwegian origins. Qobuz is headquartered in Paris, France. Both services are hosted on Amazon Web Services (AWS), the cloud infrastructure services giant that commands roughly one third of the world's entire cloud services market.
AWS server farms are any audiophile's nightmare. Tens of thousands of multi-CPU servers and industrial-grade switches crammed in crowded racks, miles of ordinary cabling coursing among tens of thousands of buzzing switched-mode power supplies and noisy cooling fans. Industrial HVAC plants humming 24/7.
This, I think, demonstrates without a doubt that audio files digitally converted to packets of ones and zeroes successfully travel thousands of miles through AWS' digital sewer, only to arrive in our homes completely unscathed and ready to deliver sound quality that, by many prominent audiophiles' account, rivals or exceeds that of $5,000 CD transports.
This also demonstrates that digital transmission protocols just work flawlessly over noise-saturated industrial-grade lines and equipment chosen for raw performance and cost-effectiveness.
This also puts in perspective the importance of improvements deployed in the home, which is to say in the last ten feet of our streamed music's multi-thousand mile journey.
No worries, I am not about to argue that a $100 streamer has to sound the same as a $30,000 one because "it's all ones and zeroes".
But it would be nice to agree on a shared-understanding baseline, because without it intelligent discourse becomes difficult. The sooner everyone gets on the same page, which is to say that our systems' digital chains process nothing less and nothing more than packets of ones and zeroes, the sooner we can move on to genuinely thought-provoking stuff like, why don't all streamers sound the same? Why do cables make a difference? Wouldn't that be more interesting?
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There's this new video from Paul McGowen of PS Audio that addresses the closing of the gap between streaming and CD playback. He says it all boils down to galvanic isolation. More food for thought. I have no dog in this fight. All the best, |
All of this is over my head but my lying eyes don't deceive me. Blu Ray players are head and shoulders above streaming. Period. From AI Overview:
The argument that a Ferrari doesn't turn blue for a moment is specious. What streaming does is change the color tone from something like Rosso Barchetta to Rosso Berlinetta or Rosso Cino or even worse, Rosso Corsa. When streaming audio, there's really no doubt that all the packets get there in time and in order but that's a numbers game. That's all that's being discussed and relies on everyone to just take their word for it as they can hear the difference.The signal in a CDP isn't compressed and travels a matter of inches while the streamed version is compressed and then uncompressed and travels around the world. This numbers game presupposes that the resultant sound is not in the least affected when compressed and uncompressed and focuses only on the numbers. That's the very definition of a red herring:
How many here jumped on the MQA bandwagon only to see it shot down? That compression scheme corrupted the sound. How many are fully invested in streaming and find the need to validate it to others? There are so many previous threads on this that, in the end, went nowhere. Both sides stayed put. A casual search on the internet shows more contradictions to arguments for streaming not being brought up but well known to those who can rattle off numbers and protocols like there's no tomorrow. It's in threads like this that one can find consensus to put forth their arguments without fear of being challenged. I certainly don't have the chops for that but there are so many recording engineers online that say otherwise as well but they rarely frequent sites like this. Some have in the past and when they do, the thread goes silent for awhile and then gathers momentum, picking up where it left off with the hopes of not hearing from them again. It's not that those who prefer CDs and better quality endpoint devices think there's magic in our choices though we are told that. It's the ones who say that a compressed signal can travel through a dirty and noisy chain and remain its virgin self when uncompressed that abide by magic. All the best, |