We Need To Talk About Ones And Zeroes

I highly doubt bluray players/transports for blu-ray audio are going obsolete any time soon...

Panasonic is bound to keep it alive...Sony playstation consoles will be around forever...thanks to the ever growing number of gamer dudes. In fact, i believe sony has been killing other manufacturers off (yamaha, for instance) w.rt the bluray market. Essentially, they take a loss with ps5 player/console sales & make their money with game sales and subscriptions. But, to be fair,  the ps5 is a very high quality bluray transport for audio. I wouldn’t know about video, am not a videophile.

The future of sacd could be bleak. 

I would say get a universal disk transport with HDMI outputs, and some SACDs, Blu-ray audio disks, 4K opera recordings and CDs.   You will always have your media, and it will always be as new because it won’t wear out. Keep your fingers crossed that somebody will still be making transports if yours carks it!

On the same note, buy a hires official studio master from qobuz, burn it on bluray disc and play it with your bluray transport....almost always/definitively sounds better than streaming the same album directly from qobuz or tidal...couldn’t be sure why.

The primary goal of streaming/rental music services should be for discovering new artists/music.

If you like the album, buy it and pay the artist...not to mention permanent ownership.

If it’s only available in redbook CD, so be it...

If there is a 24bit studio master available, burn it on blu-ray and achieve the highest fidelity possible.

Getting into all the nitty gritty of error propagation, containment whatever and arguing it with all the supposed digital geniuses could drive someone nuts soon enough. No one here with the requisite engineering background hacked into or looked under the hood of everything to be sure of everything...

Yes but is it “high end” TCP/IP? 😬

If some tweeter (super or not so super)  played a 29khz tone and a 30khz tone simultaneously, you will hear it as a 1khz tone (doppler whatever), well within your audible range...no matter if your ear doctor told you that your ears don’t work after 14khz and above.

Same goes for more misinformation being spread on @cooper52 ’s thread where some dudes are telling him that there is no musical information below 30hz (facepalm) and a sub getting down to 10hz is meaningless...

With this very complex amalgamation of frequencies overtones, undertones, whatever... referred to as music, one could never never be too sure of anything these days...

I wish I could create a graphic or an animation about this but...that would be too much unnecessary work for a forum thread.

Not at all, in fact I’m curious about the super tweeters after reading @lalitk ’s eloquent description in his virtual system page.

 

Something I would have assumed was not for me due to my hearing threshold no longer having a 2 in front of it (at least it still has 5 figures!), but cymbals can produce harmonics into the 70 KHz range. Wonder if other instruments benefit similarly from super tweeters.

Richard, i wasn’t just referring to individual instruments like a huge organ that went infrasonic on its own.

I was referring to the same ’interference’ (if we need to use a word) effect that happens on the supertweeting end also occurs on the infrasonic end.

i.e. the case of a 10 hz tone perhaps from 90 hz and a 100 hz tone played together, a 15 hz tone from other pairings and so on....i.e infrasonic ranges that could be affected from frequencies that are typically attributed to the audible range.

Strangely enough, this type of phenomenon was first described to me sometime in the 90s by a Hindustani musician when he was attempting to explain some attributes of a raag he played....I am sure the guy had never seen a measurement tool in his life...stuff that gets passed down to them by word of mouth from his teacher and the one before him and the one before him...I am a violin player and i was always baffled by the sound of their instruments (don’t have another lifetime to spare for learning their things unfortunately).

I visualize it to be an audible "spread" of sorts stemming from tones in supposedly both audible & inaudible ranges

One could ’never be too sure’ like those measurement guys on a certain other forum...y’know. They are so certain about everything and what they do not know yet may not exist apparently (scientists n all!).

The organ in the Sydney Town Hall has a 64-foot pipe which can be felt if not heard at about 10-Hz.  Stuart pianos from Australia can go down to 16-Hz.

Some organs that don’t have the space or money for long pipes make use of your ’doppler’ effect to produce low notes from two high-frequency (above audble) pipes.  It is really an interference effect, not true doppler which is caused by a speed difference between a source and a listener ...